Your politics?

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Babe_Ruth, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. Babe_Ruth

    Babe_Ruth Sultan of Swat Staff Member V.I.P.

    How should you determine your own politics? I also wonder how many of you base your politics off how you feel or off what you think will work best?
     

  2. Sim

    Sim Registered Member

    Politics should meet two criteria: They should work well for the benefit of society, and at the same time, they have to meet certain ethical criteria. One alone is not enough.

    For example, I am opposed to anti-terror laws which are ethically fine (respecting Constitutional values, human rights and law), but ineffective. At the same time, I am opposed to anti-terror laws which are effective, but don't meet ethical standards (ignoring the rights of suspects, violating their human rights, and so on).
     
  3. Alex37

    Alex37 Registered Member

    My ideology is Nationalist Right-Wing Authoritarianism.
     
  4. Diederick

    Diederick Registered Member

    I'm an Oligarchic Republican and a Socialist, because I think that will work best. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to vote, you know. And of course ethics are important, humanitarianism etc. But they don't really matter when we are just applying names here.

    Basically the idea of the Oligarchic Republic is this: a small group forms the Oligarchic part, they elect their own members based on intellect and ethical compatibility (with the constitution), and of course they need to have the proper papers to do the job. Basically that group protects the constitution of the country and forms its supreme court. They cannot have double roles: they cannot be in a ministry and cannot be elected as chair of the central government. It's the ethics guard, basically.
    There are no government parties, there is just the government. Each field, or ministry, exists of representatives and functionaries chaired by one person chosen by the ministry. The representatives are chosen by the people working in their field, who are eligible to vote. The leaders of the ministries form the central government, they are lead by a chairman chosen by the people. The chairman of the central government is the 'head of state'.
    Besides voting for representatives from their professional field, the People get to vote for the passing of all new laws, of international meddling (a.k.a. making war with another country), of privatization or nationalization, and similar central government decisions. Of course, people have to be eligible to vote. So they do a test, which they can fail for and make another attempt at once. This test is done by everyone over 20 years old. The test measures the People's compatibility with the constitution, their general knowledge of the government and economy, their general knowledge of foreign affairs and international happenings and their ethical positions. The test is made by the Oligarchs.
    Economically, this could be anything. Personally I would go for socialism, since we already have established a government which functions solidly, so things like health care, public transport, welfare and education can be placed upon the shoulders of this government. It's the best way to push up the quality of life, I'd say.
    Hmm, interesting. You know, I've toyed with this idea for a while too, but don't you think it is dangerous to claim ethical superiority and/or rob people of their liberties (even if they are superficial)? Or is it not your intend to serve the people?
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2010
  5. MasterChad

    MasterChad Registered Member

    I believe in parts of Nationalism and Fascism

    Though I am not a full believer in Adolf Hitler
    I Do believe the government structure that he built,
    And the Technology that he advanced

    He built a strong government, military, Industry, and Even Gave Pride back to a nation

    Communist just killed all that that opposed

    Lets compare him to other leaders

    Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000

    Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)

    Adolf Hitler
    (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000

    Leopold II of Belgium
    (Congo, 1886-1908)8,000,000

    Hideki Tojo
    (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000

    Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)

    This is a part part of a BIG list
    No i am not a Nazi
    Nazi's no longer exist
    Neo-Nazi's are not Nazi's simply put

    I am pro fascist
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2010
  6. Diederick

    Diederick Registered Member

    Totalitarian all the way, huh? Same question I posed Alex37: don't you think it is dangerous to claim ethical superiority and/or rob people of their 'liberties'?
     
  7. Sim

    Sim Registered Member

    I am a national-conservative liberal fascistocommunist.

    Or was it libertarian national-democratic communistofascist?
     
  8. MasterChad

    MasterChad Registered Member

    I dont see anything wrong with it,

    You Forget that there are far worse things than ethical superiority and the lost of some freedom...
     
  9. Diederick

    Diederick Registered Member

    I didn't say it is wrong, I just find it risky. Basically, if you claim ethic superiority, and you're wrong; some people (if not all) will lead very unhappy lives. What 'greater risks' are you thinking of?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't libertarian the opposite of fascist and communist? Please explain.
     
  10. ExpectantlyIronic

    ExpectantlyIronic e̳̳̺͕ͬ̓̑̂ͮͦͣ͒͒h̙ͦ̔͂?̅̂ ̾͗̑

    lol @ Sim (I'd rep you, but it says I'm not allowed yet)

    My political views are the consequence of considering each issue individually in light of what I know, what I suspect, and what I think should be. As a consequence, they often shift and progress in subtle ways, as I come upon new facts or learn that things I once believed are wrong, consider an issue in more depth, or even as my values change. I doubt, though, I will ever lose my wariness of power, fondness of egalitarianism, and loathing of cruelty, bigotry, want, and suffering in all their manifestations.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2010

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