War on Terror

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Steerpike, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. Steerpike

    Steerpike Registered Member

    If we assume that terrorism is undesirable, then what is the best way to eliminate terrorism?

    Discuss "War on Terror."
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  2. Bjarki

    Bjarki Registered Member

    I'd say the Clinton-way was the best.. keep out of the swamps, but infiltrate the terrorist groups instead. Intervene when necessary, either through special operations or concentrated bombing of training facilities and other terrorist infrastructure.

    In the meantime undermine the underlying ideologies. Increase wealth & luxuries and try to hook the young single men up with wives. Undermine the conservative and radical Islam, promote secularism through education and stimulate the oppressed to speak out for their rights. Turn the population against acts of terrorism.
  3. Steerpike

    Steerpike Registered Member

    How does one undermine the underlying ideologies?

    How would these be accomplished?

    Are there other terrorists than just "radical Islam?"
  4. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    Slightly better wording this time;)

    I dont think you can fight terrorism. The best way is to try and understand the terrerists cause and not necessarily meet in the middle but come to a reasonable outcome that does not involve violence. Rather than give them something to fight for(or against) ..... remove it .....take away there reasning and given time terrorism will soften.
  5. Bjarki

    Bjarki Registered Member

    Like I said: luxuries, wives and education.

    It's already in the progress. Arabs discovering cars, internet, porn, stocks, coca cola and mcdonalds. We just need to flood them a little bit more with other kinds of luxuries to keep them from spending too much time in the mosques. Works well here in the west, not too many youngsters still visit the mosque on a weekly basis, they have 'other' things to do.
    And well the wives.. ban polygamy, ban arranged marriages and change the culture so the younger sons get a share of the family's wealth as well (and are thus capable of supporting their own families).

    Sure there are, we've got the IRA and the ETA here in Europe. But how many victims do they make compared to the Muslim ones?
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  6. micfranklin

    micfranklin Eviscerator

    The best way to fight terrorism would be to avoid intervention in countries in which we have no interest in whatsoever, foreign intervention does more harm than good in my eyes. And you could also stop shipping weapons to other countries around the world, so that they wouldn't use it on other people and then that particular country who sold weapons ends up having a hand in it.
  7. Steerpike

    Steerpike Registered Member

    Some of what you propose would require systemic changes in their own countries. How would you propose this is accomplished?

    Most (if not all) of what you have recommended to eliminate terrorism is in effect in Europe and you admit there still is terrorism. You have a contradiction. What would be the best way(s) to eliminate all terrorism?
  8. Bjarki

    Bjarki Registered Member

    Not through military means. I think it goes naturally. Many muslim countries have already adopted western marriage laws and banned polygamy and underage marriages. Countries like Iran may seem anti-west, but in practice the western culture and its values exert great influence there. For them, the west still represents wealth, modern ideas and general development. Many countries, even in the middle east, would like to have a share in this.

    I don't know if we can really eliminate all of it. It comes in many forms you know. Preventing school shootings requires a different approach than a bombing inspired by religious beliefs.
    In case of the first the answer lies in better schools (less crowded, more individual guidance, intervention at a much earlier state.. often schools have at most 1 counsellor; that's by far not enough to deal with all the potential time bombs).
    In case of the latter the answer lies in the elimination of terrorist cells, groups and ideas. Religious terrorists never work alone. You need to fight the infrastructure behind it: the radical mosques, the terrorist organisations, the small cells, the suppliers of arms, etc. A lone guy isn't likely to commit a terrorist attack.
  9. KiethBlackLion

    KiethBlackLion Registered Member

    For me, the war on terror is like the war on drugs. It'll never have a definitive end. Mainly because terrorism is defined by your point of view. To the U.S. and most of the world, Bin Laden and Al-Quida are terrorists. To them, the U.S. is a terrorist nation.

    I'm sure those who dumped the tea in Boston Harbor were considered terrorists by the British. It's a catch-22. If you don't fight against it, it'll grow out of control. If you fight against you, it'll never end.
  10. arrowman

    arrowman New Member

    Before declaring the war on terrorism
    Defined terrorism?
    Types of recall?
    You want to set any kind of war?
    Each type is based on what?

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