5th is not low. Just saying...Why is Cobb so low? I don't see it.
Everyone in his era had poor training and poor nutrition.Cobb played in an era without any training and poor nutrition. Yet he was still able to win 12 batting titles, hit over .400 three times, and end a career that included 11434 at-bats. Some players can't hit that in one season. He hit well his entire career, even when the live-ball was introduced, which stumped some players badly.
I find it almost impossible to convert power numbers from the deadball era with any sort of accuracy. Because almost everyone I've looked at during the deadball era tended to hit between 2 and 12 HR in a year. And everyone's numbers fluctuated. You didn't have one person always hitting about 10-12 HR a year. Everyone's numbers were as low as 2-3, and many people's were as high as 10-12. I see no good way to adjust everyone's numbers fairly. Is it possible he would have been able to hit 30 HR today? Sure. But it's also possible he wouldn't have hit more than 20 in his highest HR season.Cobb hit 117 homers in his career. This is very good considering that he played about 20 years in the dead-ball. He hit 1937 RBIs and is second all-time in runs. He was a marvelous base-stealer and no slouch when it came to fielding. Cobb alos held a great .433 OBP and .512 SLG despite having few homers.
If you need me to go on, just give a shout.[/quote] He's lower than Bonds*, but more than Bonds. Bonds was a monster before steroids - in 1992, he hit .311, with .456 OB, .624 SLG, 205 OPS+, and almost 40 SB. And he was a great fielder too. But while on steroids, he put up arguably the best hitting seasons ever. That's why Bonds* is ahead of Cobb.Cobb had to face tough pitchers in his era. Pitchers that copuld use spit-balls, etc. He is the king of the contact. I don't see how he is lesser than Bonds, Hornsby, and Wagner.
This should in no way affect his place among the greats. Bonds and Ruth were both clubhouse cancers because of their massive egos and their dealings with the media, but apparently that doesn't affect their places on your list.Another thing is that I deduct points from Cobb because I believe he was one of the meanest players to play the game.
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