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The Deep Web

Doc

Trust me, I'm The Doctor.
V.I.P.
I know we had a similar topic recently but it didn't really discuss the true deep web. Most of you will have heard of Silk Road being shut down soon. It is an infamous deep web site that specialized in the sale of illegal drugs via bitcoin and other standard monetary transactions. The U.S. government took it down after a very long sting. The man running the site made millions and was living in Florida.

The standard definition of the deep web is a web site that can't be found by conventional search engines and, recently, browsers. The most popular way to access them now is through the Tor network that claims to be anonymous. That isn't true because Silk Road was on the Tor network.

Conspiracy sites, WikiLeaks, child porn, banned/illegal texts, and anything that can be purchased on the black market can be found in the deep web.

Wiki that talks about the deep web: Deep Web - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I didn't really have any other point other than to create an open ended discussion on the topic. Any direct questions/comments should be asked and offered up.
 

Taliesin

Registered Member
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, a standard web search (or whatever you want to call it) will not unearth these kinds of sites because they're kind of off the radar, yes? So, logic says that you would have to be in contact with the right people (or even sites) in order to access such things...

Have I got that right?
 

Doc

Trust me, I'm The Doctor.
V.I.P.
That may be true for the worst of the worst but most sites are listed on some kind of index. The most common way to access them is through a specialized client and the indexes are listed on a separate web page on that client. They have different extension (like .onion instead of .com) and are impossible to reach from a normal browser.
 

Hilander

Free Spirit
Staff member
V.I.P.
I don't see how any of these places can really be off the radar completely. I think the FBI/NSA would have ways of finding them and getting into them if they really wanted to. Every time someone gets busted then they look at whats on their computer and find a bookmark with a saved password they are in. They are only as strong as their weakest link.

Me, I don't want to find them.
 

Elanor

Registered Member
Every time I have ever heard the deep web mentioned has been in association with the darkest part of it. That makes me very uncomfortable. I am sure there could be parts where the information being shared isn't necessarily illegal, but I think I would prefer to keep my distance. But surely, if someone wants to go to those lengths to keep what they are doing secret, then they must be up to no good.
 

Taliesin

Registered Member
You're right, Elanor. I have a hard time imagining anyone going to those lengths to keep their favourite quiche recipe secret from all but a handful of privileged friends.
 

Doc

Trust me, I'm The Doctor.
V.I.P.
The stuff hidden away in the butthole of the internet is almost entirely illegal. Most of it is produced illegally but isn't illegal to view (like WikiLeaks). Some of it is just downright despicable.
 

sunrise

aka ginger warlock
V.I.P.
I know there is a browser out there (I forget what it is call because to be honest I am not interested in using it) that stops people from being able to monitor what you are doing online to anyone be it your own ISP, the NSA, MI5 etc etc.

The thing is the internet is the last place possible on this planet where everyone has the right to have freedom of speech and freedom of expression, now I am not saying I want to see such things or that it makes it right but should people be allowed to access anything they wish to? I know I made a thread some time ago about my ISP banning me from certain sites such as websites for torrents but in places like N.Korea they might as well be banned from all sites if their nutcase (I mean lovely man if he is reading this) leader gets his way.

I am unsure as to what I would want to look for that I cannot right now using conventional methods but that being said I remember in my teenage years looking for things that people could lead to wanting to know why I was such as "The Anarchist Cookbook" and "The Satanic Bible", I had no reason for looking for them except I was told they were evil and I was young and silly.
 

dDave

Well-Known Member
V.I.P.
I think a lot of people fear the dark web because it tends to be a place where illegal online activity happens. I don't have any experience with the dark web but it's my understanding that there are also some good things down there. Sometimes it's used just to be secretive for good purposes.

It's sort of like a torrent in my view. The torrent itself isn't a bad thing, a lot of what people do with the torrent is bad though.

I've always imagined the government sort of having a dark web of their own where they have a bunch of stuff accessible only to people that should be in there. Sort of like a very well protected network.
 

sunrise

aka ginger warlock
V.I.P.
I have never really taken an interest in 4Chan and never really go on it - I know that is not DarkWeb but I think it is the closest thing you would get that still exists in a public enviorment but what would people think to places that are used by the likes of Anonymous?
 
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