I saw a post at the beginning of the "Why I believe in God" thread that suggested that we categorize our discussions instead of lumping them all into one big "God's existence" thread. So, I'll start a few categories. This one is for Biblical discussions. This is the place for atheists to attack the Bible, and for Christians to defend the Bible. Please note that this is a specific thread that talks about the Christian God and His Word ONLY. If you want to talk about the Koran or w/e then make a thread for that. To begin, I saw a post by somebody within the first few pages of the "Why I believe in God" thread that stated that Jesus never claimed to be God. WOW. Evolutionists always tell Creationists to get an understanding of evolution before they argue, so you know what.... Atheists: Get an understanding of the Bible before you start to attack it! I will admit that I don't know a great deal about evolution, which is why I don't talk about it too much. But I think atheists should understand what they are talking about before they talk about it as well. So to respond to the statement "Jesus never claimed to be God", let me show you some passages from the Bible to refute that claim: John 8:57, 58 - "Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am" - I think Jesus' words here are more powerful than the statement "I am God". Here, He claims to exist in the present tense before Abraham was ever born, which means He exists presently at all times. John 10:26-30 - "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish... I and my Father are one." John 13:13 - "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am." John clearly states in the beginning of his book: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... In Him was life; and the life was the light of men... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John uses the word "Word" (Logos) to effectively communicate with Jews and Gentiles (What do John 1:1,14 mean when they declare that Jesus is the Word of God?). John 14:9 - "Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father"