Texas high schools used cage fighting to settle disputes

BigBob

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A Texas high school used cage fights to settle disputes among problem students, internal investigation documents obtained by The Dallas Morning News allege.

The principal and other staff at South Oak Cliff High School in Dallas repeatedly put students in a steel utility cage located in a section of the boys basketball locker room to battle it out — with their bare fists and without head protection, the documents show.

A 2008 investigation within the Dallas school district's Office of Professional Responsibility found that then-principal Donald Moten and other school officials "knew of the practice, allowed it to go on for a time, and failed to report it."

The cage fights happened between 2003 and 2005, according to the district's report.

In one case, a school hall monitor tried to battle a student in the cage. In that instance, Moten broke up the fight, according to the investigation.

But in a separate incident, Moten allegedly told security staff to put two teens who were already fighting with each other in the cage to "let'em duke it out," according to the News.

Contacted by the paper on Wednesday, the former principal denied having knowledge of any cage fighting in the school when he was in charge of it.

"I don't even know what you're talking about," Moten told the News. "That's barbaric. You can't do that at a high school. You can't do that anywhere."

But one middle school counselor, who was fired from his job at South Oak Cliff High and has filed a whistleblower lawsuit, tells a different story.

"It was gladiator-style entertainment for the staff," said Frank Hammond. "They were taking these boys downstairs to fight. And it was sanctioned by the principal and security."

Charges were never brought against Moten or the hall monitors accused of setting up the fights, despite investigators' saying the staff's conduct, "may constitute a criminal violation," The Dallas Morning News reported.

Many of the staff named are still employed at the school, according to the newspaper.

It wasn't clear why the district never pursued criminal charges and the Dallas County district attorney's office said she wouldn't confirm or deny whether a case was ever filed.

The cage fighting was uncovered during an investigation into grade-changing for student athletes that ended up costing the school their 2006 boys state basketball championship, the News said.

Moten resigned in 2008 after the grade-changing investigation ended.
I guess this is one way to settle troubled kids. I would've loved this rather then detentions. :lol:
 

Mirage

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Staff member
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#2
Not only should they have lost their jobs, they should have also been fined and been put in jail for a few years.

Not saying kids wouldn't fight on their own but the school should have zero part in condoning it. Talk about "Fight Club". I guess somebody broke the first rule...
 
#3
I think the way they went about this is kind've ridiculous. I mean I'm not totally against it. I had a gym teacher who would give us boxing gloves, lay out some mats and watch it. It never lasted long, if anyone really got knocked down that was it. It worked beautifully too. No one was ever truly hurt, and honestly, we never really had any problems in the class because of it. No one was allowed to watch, it was a spectator kind've thing.

In a more controlled and more respectful manner an idea like this could work, I know it'll never happen though.
 

Cait

Oh, poppycock.
#5
That's...wow. Of course, the administrators followed the golden rule of politics: deny, deny and deny more. I hope the police check up on this periodically to make sure it actually stops.
 

ysabel

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#6
Their very own Fight Club. Just curious, what criminal violation would it constitute if found that it's true?
 
#7
Fighting between high school kids breaks out all the time but never should a school take in any part of it. If the kids have to fight then they need to take it off of campus.
 

icegoat63

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This one looks like fun... lemme play devils advocate here:

Not saying kids wouldn't fight on their own but the school should have zero part in condoning it. Talk about "Fight Club". I guess somebody broke the first rule...
Having known that (the bolded part) who's to say that the School isnt actually doing a public service and actually Helping the kids health via orchestrating these fighting events?

Think about it like that... If you let Little Johnny A get pissed off and he picks a fight with Little Johnny B, chances are they are gonna take out some primal aggression. Now how many times have we heard lately on the "News about School Yard Brawl lands Student in hospital"? Because all Little Johnny A has to do is find himself some sort of school yard weapon like a tree branch or rock or something and really whip up his adversary?

By recognizing these sorts of problems in advance, could it be spun that these faculty members are actually doing a service to these students by Orchestrating and Observing the bouts... thus keeping them under control?

Basically whats more important? The fact Fighting was allowed or the fact that the outside of standard fight related injuries the Students walked away fine and quite frankly less hostile after "duking it out"?
 

Tucker

Lion Rampant
#10
This one looks like fun... lemme play devils advocate here:



Having known that (the bolded part) who's to say that the School isnt actually doing a public service and actually Helping the kids health via orchestrating these fighting events?

Think about it like that... If you let Little Johnny A get pissed off and he picks a fight with Little Johnny B, chances are they are gonna take out some primal aggression. Now how many times have we heard lately on the "News about School Yard Brawl lands Student in hospital"? Because all Little Johnny A has to do is find himself some sort of school yard weapon like a tree branch or rock or something and really whip up his adversary?

By recognizing these sorts of problems in advance, could it be spun that these faculty members are actually doing a service to these students by Orchestrating and Observing the bouts... thus keeping them under control?

Basically whats more important? The fact Fighting was allowed or the fact that the outside of standard fight related injuries the Students walked away fine and quite frankly less hostile after "duking it out"?
Obviously, violence as a solution to conflict isn't what a school should be teaching. Hell, even martial arts academies drill it into their students' heads to only use their fighting skills in self defense.