Spawning in sandbox games

#1
Have you ever noticed that in a lot of the open world 'sandbox' games, like Grand Theft Auto, Fable and the like that spawning seems very much set to hinder your progress.

For example:
I didn't realise that for one of the Demon Doors in Fable 2, until later on, that I would need certain clothing to open it. Now that I need the damned thing it won't spawn in its usual place. I've searched and searched for it, spending hours, and with no result.

I need a bounty to complete Red Dead, yet it won't appear.

A lot of the time in Grand Theft Auto, I found that a car wouldn't appear when I needed it, or a cop car would when I was on a timed mission, out of the blue so I crash into it, and have them chase me. ---

Lot's of stuff like that. I'm sure there are countless more incidents like this. I find the spawning mechanism in some games to be set dead against you making any progress in the game. Do you find this to be a same problem? Does it make the game more interesting to you, or just annoy you like it does me?
 
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Merc

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#2
Or you know, it could be a glitch and not an actual design mechanic.

I know what bounty you're talking about in Red Dead and it's incurable. It's for one of the outfits, right?
 
#3
Yeah. Just seems weird how such glitches would be so commonplace and so inconvenient. The worst thing is knowing that some others have managed to do whatever I have not. As if I get the glitch, and they don't.

Extremely annoying.
 

Nevyrmoore

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#4
The thing I find odd is the inclusion of the Fable 2 demon doors. Last I checked, they were always in a specific spot of the game world and can't actually move. They never spawn, they're always there...
 
#5
The thing I find odd is the inclusion of the Fable 2 demon doors. Last I checked, they were always in a specific spot of the game world and can't actually move. They never spawn, they're always there...
Nope. I've searched high and low for this - I used tips off of websites, all saying the same thing. I needed a strumpet skirt, yet when I went to Rookridge/Fairfax Gardens as directed, to find a clothing trader, I couldn't find a single one selling this item. I've been around the shops numerous times with no success.

It just will not turn up. Perhaps it's not a spawning feature, but some other problem. I still find it annoying.
 

Nevyrmoore

AKA Ass-Bandit
#6
Oh, the item. I thought you meant the door.

This seems like an issue of what stock is available at various times. What items you can buy from stores varies on a day to day basis. I'm guessing the game hasn't chosen that specific item every time.
 
#7
Oh, the item. I thought you meant the door.

This seems like an issue of what stock is available at various times. What items you can buy from stores varies on a day to day basis. I'm guessing the game hasn't chosen that specific item every time.
Yep, the item. It's very annoying.

I keep going to the door on the off chance it might open, but it doesn't. I mean, my character has been dressed like a complete twat for ages now. Bloody stone-faced scumbag bossing me about for no good reason. - Sorry, I was getting rather annoyed at it. I guess I could try going to them at specific times, yet I know that means I could be there for eons - It may be best for me to ignore it altogether.
 
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Xeilo

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I noticed it with GTA, when ever I needed a sort of car it would never be around! Pissed me off so much.
 
#10
To be fair, you try programming massive open world games like GTA, Red Dead, and Fable without hiccups; it's certainly no dainty little walk in the park.
Yes, actually I have taken this into account. It still doesn't remove the annoyance of it being so.
Even more so, when a glitch seems to affect my game, but others seem to get through it without a problem. Maybe I'm just shit at computer games, that might be it too.

I don't reckon I'm that bothered about it really, just raising the point for some reason. Most of these sorts of games are pretty damn entertaining regardless.