Socialism would be an option! Yikes

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Rapier, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. Rapier

    Rapier Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    I read somewhere that Socialism in the USA would be an option if the rich keep getting richer and the poor continue getting poorer.

    We don't need no freaking socialism we just need to restore the regulations that were put in place to protect John Q. and Jane Q. Public.

    For instance, the banks were localized by regulation to prevent state and regional banks from profiteering in another area's "downturn." Financial institutions and utilities were "set free" to allow them to participate in the free market without the restraints of their "charters." So what happened and what's happening now?

    The Publics, bless their hearts, have lost their savings and homes and jobs and pensions over and over and over.

  2. Van

    Van Heavy Weapons Guy V.I.P.

    The poor are getting richer, and the rich are getting richer. Sowherever you read this, it needs to get it's facts straight. Also, the "source" seems to be ignorant as socialism is an option this very November.
  3. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    This thread is very vague whist retaining bias without holding any substance. Please elaborate!

    What type/aspect of socialism are we talking about?

    What did you read? (link)
  4. Rapier

    Rapier Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    I thought it was very clear.

    Our government, under the guise deregulation, has thrown the Publics under the bus.

    What type?


    Surely you jest, I don't think "I read somewhere" necessitates citing a source.

    What type of socialism? Surely you jest.

    Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  5. Kazmarov

    Kazmarov For a Free Scotland

    Wealth and Income Inequality in the USA

    Firstly, because our income disparity is widening at an alarming rate, the poor are getting poorer in relation to the wealthy, and particularly their purchasing power is lowering.

    Secondly, if you'd referenced the US real wage (Wages and Benefits: Real Wages (1964-2004) - Working Life), you'd seen it's been stagnant for 25 years. Given the data about income disparity (Gini coefficient), that means that real wages for the rich are rising, and falling for the poor.

    So yes, the poor are getting poorer. Anyone who understands macroeconomics would understand that.


    Republican Party
    Democratic Party

    Both sponsors of state administration of a variety of services and industries. Socialistic to the bone.
  6. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    No need to patronize!

    You have not given any information just a political rant based on nothing, it includes no background or substance to give it any foundation.

    Have the public been literally thrown under the bus or is this a euphemism or an analogy of something else you wish to share because at the moment it makes little to no sense and has no reference to anything and therefore makes any discussion obsolete.

    I am still none the wiser to what aspect of socialism you are referring to, Marxism? social democracy? liberal socialism? national socialism? communism? You have listed African Socialism amongst your list so shall I assume that African socialism is taking a foothold into US politics?:confused:
    Is this what you wish to discuss;[SARCASM] how African Socialism is destroying middle-class America? [/SARCASM]

    You say socialism is an option in the US but give no clear indication to what this move towards socialism is.

    No I do not jest and yes your not being clear.
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  7. Rapier

    Rapier Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    I'm saying that to resolve economic strife in America we need to re-regulate the deregulation that has destroyed 150 years of progress of the average American in the workplace and throughout our society, allowing business and protected groups to become our government's voice.

    See. It wasn't about socialism at all, now was it?:sigh:
  8. Jeanie

    Jeanie still nobody's bitch V.I.P. Lifetime

    van, I stronly encourage you to read up on socialism, what it is and what it isn't. Obama is a supporter of capitalism and free market enterprise, which is the antithesis of socialism.

    Anyone who thinks Obama is a socialist either knows nothing about Obama, or nothing about socialism. Or perhaps it's both and they're just getting their information from Right Wing talking heads...
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  9. Rapier

    Rapier Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    In the US and much of the rest of the "free" world there are no such animals as capitalism and free market enterprise. Instead the soft underbelly of free societies is frought with Malignant Opportunism.

    All the isms are patchwork to cover-up medieval greed.
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  10. Hi_Im_Tim

    Hi_Im_Tim I am Heavy Weapons Guy

    He wants to have socialized Health Care, He wants to raise taxes on the upper class and lower taxes on the middle and lower class, he wants to pay for everybody to get higher education, he wants to pay for peoples houses when they bought houses that were to expensive for them.

    Here is a link where Obama criticizes Ownership Society/Capitalism / Obama criticizes ‘ownership society’

    Here is a link that talks about Obama showing his socialism Barack Obama explains socialism
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