Should schools place more emphasis on classical languages?

CaptainObvious

Son of Liberty
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#11
But whose fault is it if students don't see the educational value in learning something obscure? It seems these days that schools are only concerned with teaching kids how to do well on standardized tests.

I say yes, schools should place more of an emphasis on classical languages as well as the arts. Anything that helps kids learn how to learn. All they're learning now is how to test.
Well, I wouldn't consider it obscure but I would place blame not only on the educational system, but on parents as well as the students themselves. I agree, it seems that is all the public school system focus on, passing standarized tests.
 

generalblue

Where is my Queen?
#12
Latin is a dead language but it is still taught in some schools. I took Latin in high school and the only thing that helped me after taking the class for two years is basically nothing. Never used it, and never will.
 

tvaiello

Registered Member
#13
I think that when it comes to mass-standardized things like language, society sort of takes care of itself. The cause and effect is interchangeable. For example, let's say that by next year, no schools are offering Latin. Okay, so maybe there are some groups that choose to speak the language. If the language is no longer being taught, then the Latin-speaking community would be forced to learn something else. I honestly don't see language extinction as a problem, it's more of a cycle. Realistically, there will always be a language that a large group of people speak. This concept can be applied to lots of other things, like man being an end in itself.
 

fractal

Eye see what you did ther
#14
Instead of learning a useless language like Latin, it would be far better for them to learn a major foreign language for better employability. For those who want to learn Latin, books in the library should be proportional to the demand for the language. Of course, if there is an overwhelming demand it would probably be better to have a special class once in a while.
 

Duckbang

Registered Member
#15
There's absolutely no point in learning a dead language at school.

Sure offer the most common/ueful anguages languages, ones that are actually used for reasons other than being pretentious.

If they are that into learning dead/obscure languages, they can always learn outside of school, or when they get older.
 

CaptainObvious

Son of Liberty
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#16
There's absolutely no point in learning a dead language at school.

Sure offer the most common/ueful anguages languages, ones that are actually used for reasons other than being pretentious.

If they are that into learning dead/obscure languages, they can always learn outside of school, or when they get older.
Many legal and medical terms are either in Latin or derive from Latin so I wouldn't consider it 1) a dead language and 2) pretentious. I also find learning such languages makes one more well rounded, but maybe that's just me.
 

Duckbang

Registered Member
#17
Many legal and medical terms are either in Latin or derive from Latin so I wouldn't consider it 1) a dead language and 2) pretentious. I also find learning such languages makes one more well rounded, but maybe that's just me.
Yes, but you don't need to learn an entire language to understand the meaning of the word in context, you learn it at law school or in biology.

I fail to see how learning language can make someone more well rounded, as opposed to learning something like mandarin/spanish.

In a perfect world all subjects could be offered at schools, but really theones which are most useful and applicable should be offeed at a scool level, everyone's can specialise later. You can learn latin outside school if you're that enthusiatic about it or at university.
 

ysabel

/ˈɪzəˌbɛl/ pink 5
#18
Up to HS level, no. I don't think there should be emphasis on something not necessarily practical. It's already hard enough to explain to some students why they should study mathematics no matter how you can apply it in your daily life - they're not that much interested in the whole formality of it like going through proper mathematical reasoning to get to an answer that seems obvious from the start anyway. Trying to sell these languages by saying they're the roots of other languages ... maybe they won't care as much. Heck even some complain about learning languages they can actually use more (if they travel or see movies or listen to music or find intl jobs).
Would it be nice to learn it? Yes. Should it be favored over other usually offered foreign languages? No.

But in college, when people pick what they actually want with their life instead of just focusing on making through HS, then why not. I can imagine for example how Latin classes would be great for them and very useful for them. I'm not sure if it's part of their curriculum already or not as I don't have a med background.
 

Iris

rainbow 11!
#19
I definitely think latin would be a big one. Even if it's a dead language, I think it's practical. sure you won't be translating or declining verbs when you're an adult. Nor will you be using case usage...

but the benefits it has with learning the romance languages, being able to recognize words that have latin roots and figuring out their definition. pecunia is the word for money, and impecunious comes from the latin word for money, with the definition meaning poor.

Look at all of the medical terms that come from latin. I think Latin is more practical than what people think. How many people take a language and forget everything they learned? If they are going to waste a year learning something, why not latin?
 

CaptainObvious

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#20
Yes, but you don't need to learn an entire language to understand the meaning of the word in context, you learn it at law school or in biology.

I fail to see how learning language can make someone more well rounded, as opposed to learning something like mandarin/spanish.

In a perfect world all subjects could be offered at schools, but really theones which are most useful and applicable should be offeed at a scool level, everyone's can specialise later. You can learn latin outside school if you're that enthusiatic about it or at university.
The point is, you stated it was dead, obviously it's not. I also fail to see how it's pretensious as you have failed to prove it as such. Do you have anything else?
 
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