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Should catholic priests remain celibate?

AngelsPeak

Wanna play?
Is priestly celibacy an oudated idea? If I recall correctly, the main reason for this requirement came about because of a fear that too many priests would leave church property to their children if they were allowed to procreate.
How can a celibate priest give credible advice to married couples when he has never experienced the union himself?

There is no biblical mandate that priests should be celibate.
 

Mirage

Secret Agent
Staff member
V.I.P.
It seems stupid to me. From what I understand of Catholicism a lot of their rules come from traditions. Celibacy as a requirement seems like a very intense thing to ask for. Do priests own church property anyway though? I don't see how this makes sense in modern times.

Also nuns have to be celibate too. I think anybody with a position of power in the Catholic church has to remain celibate, correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Kazmarov

For a Free Scotland
The Bible dictates that the people of the world 'be fruitful and multiply' while remaining silent on priests remaining celibate. In fact, the Bible doesn't speak at all in what organized churches should do.

Protestant ministers, rabbis, and imams all are allowed to marry and have children, making Catholic priests the only Abrahamic leaders to be celibate. Seems odd.
 

Merc

Problematic Shitlord
V.I.P.
I just think it's incredibly unhealthy to think a man can go his whole life without sex.
 

DinoFlintstone

"There can be only one!"
First, nothing 'Priestly' can be out dated. The Church does not change its rules. The rules are not man made [if you want to argue that, then it's a different topic.]

People 'in power' within the Church do not have to celibate, but certain clergy do [their is a difference.]

"The Bible dictates that the people of the world 'be fruitful and multiply' while remaining silent on priests remaining celibate. In fact, the Bible doesn't speak at all in what organized churches should do.
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That's not true. To remain silent, then Catholic Priests would have to be mentioned in the first place, which they are not.
The only Catholic mentioned in the Bible is Saint Peter, when he is made the first Pope:
Matthew 16:18-19
"And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." "
The 'rules' are given to the Pope, on matters of faith, he is infallible, i.e it is impossible for him to be wrong, but on earthly matters such as politics, opinions etc, he's like any other man, he can make mistakes. 'Cleibacy' is a matter of faith.

It's not 100% accurate that a Priest can have lived his life without sex. He can have sex before he's a Priest, but not while he's a Priest.

In all honesty, this isn't the place to debate the issue. Their are specialised forums such as the Catholic Community Forum [The CCF] where you can get it from the horses mouth so to speak, as with debate on other religions, you can get specialised forums, but be careful. Common sense should tell if they are genuine or not.
 

DLFerguson

Registered Member
Is priestly celibacy an oudated idea? If I recall correctly, the main reason for this requirement came about because of a fear that too many priests would leave church property to their children if they were allowed to procreate.
How can a celibate priest give credible advice to married couples when he has never experienced the union himself?

There is no biblical mandate that priests should be celibate.
Very true. The way I understand it, back in the days when priests were advisers to royalty, titled gentry and noblemen, priests were frequently given land and considerable wealth for their service. The Church didn't want the priests passing all that onto their offspring and when priests died whatever property/money they possessed was taken over by The Church.

It's an outmoded, outdated rule centuries old that really needs to be changed.
 

DinoFlintstone

"There can be only one!"
Very true. The way I understand it, back in the days when priests were advisers to royalty, titled gentry and noblemen, priests were frequently given land and considerable wealth for their service. The Church didn't want the priests passing all that onto their offspring and when priests died whatever property/money they possessed was taken over by The Church.

It's an outmoded, outdated rule centuries old that really needs to be changed.

That might be very well if it were true, but it's not.
 

Saucepan

Registered Member
Even Priest's will have these desires that ebb at us all. No matter how much you try to repress them (with or without the help of God) it's no easy task. When you hear the stories about the sexual shenanigans of the odd Priest it certainly brings into question the validity of these claims to which the whole Catholic Priesthood is supposed to hold.

I believe they should be allowed some outlet for these desires (if they feel them) that will not bring others to harm. I can't trust someone who isn't honest about their desires, to try and pretend that the problem is limited, or not even there is silly.
 

DinoFlintstone

"There can be only one!"
Even Priest's will have these desires that ebb at us all. No matter how much you try to repress them (with or without the help of God) it's no easy task. When you hear the stories about the sexual shenanigans of the odd Priest it certainly brings into question the validity of these claims to which the whole Catholic Priesthood is supposed to hold.

I believe they should be allowed some outlet for these desires (if they feel them) that will not bring others to harm. I can't trust someone who isn't honest about their desires, to try and pretend that the problem is limited, or not even there is silly.

You're talking about Pedophile Priests? :sigh:

Some people jump the gun and and fooled into thinking the sex scandals are exlusive to the Catholic Church. That's not true. Children are more likely to be sexually abused by Church men/women of other denominations, denominations that have no rules on celibacey, therefore the celibacey argument does not wash.
 
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