Senate passes $838 Stimulus Bill

ILOVEUSA911

Registered Member
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Strap in and hold on to whatever money you can for a long time.

The senate just passed Obama's $838 stimulus bill. At this moment, the Dow is not reacting kindly to the news, it's down. I think that says a lot about this bill. They don't trust it and neither do I.

I think it's a very sad day for America. And this is just the beginning, he's only been in office three weeks. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for this kind of crap for years to come.

Sickening to me...

Economic stimulus bill passes Senate hurdle - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com
 

Mirage

Administrator
Staff member
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#2
100 years from now, when this money is still not paid off, you can rest assured the TV's and DVD players that people spend the money on will be long gone.

Hopefully Obama's approval rating continues to drop. There are a lot of people who are extremely against wasteful spending, which is all he's done since he got into office.

The "Not so great depression" is on the way and this will only make it worse. Let's just hope this doesn't pass in the house. Otherwise, this is truly a day that will live on in infamy.
 
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ExpectantlyIronic

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#3
"We're all Keynesians now." -Dick Nixon

If only Dick's observation were (still?) true. Good for the Senate, though. Now they need to get to work on single-payer health care. Stat.
 
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Jeanie

still nobody's bitch
V.I.P.
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100 years from now, when this money is still not paid off, you can rest assured the TV's and DVD players that people spend the money on will be long gone.

Hopefully Obama's approval rating continues to drop. There are a lot of people who are extremely against wasteful spending, which is all he's done since he got into office.

The "Not so great depression" is on the way and this will only make it worse. Let's just hope this doesn't pass in the house. Otherwise, this is truly a day that will live on in infamy.
First of all it's Republican policies that have gotten us to this point in the first place. Second of all, what do you mean "continue to drop"? Are his approval ratings falling? He's only been in office three weeks, how can you say "all he's done since he got into office"? How could he have spent anything yet? I'm appalled that you have a desire to see a president fail. Appalled.
 

Stab-o-Matic5000

Cutting Edge in Murder
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100 years from now, when this money is still not paid off, you can rest assured the TV's and DVD players that people spend the money on will be long gone.

Hopefully Obama's approval rating continues to drop. There are a lot of people who are extremely against wasteful spending, which is all he's done since he got into office.

The "Not so great depression" is on the way and this will only make it worse. Let's just hope this doesn't pass in the house. Otherwise, this is truly a day that will live on in infamy.
Yeah, because all of the money is going to checks to low income families. OH WAIT, it's not. There are corporate tax cuts and funding for rebuilding roads and other stuff in there as well.
 

ILOVEUSA911

Registered Member
#6
"We're all Keynesians now." -Dick Nixon

If only Dick's observation were (still?) true. Good for the Senate, though. Now they need to get to work on single-payer health care. Stat.
Let's talk about health care. In this bill, the government will be able to monitor what treatment you're receiving from your doctors. This was slipped into the bill. Very scary to me. Can you say socialism?

I don't know about you, but I don't want the government telling my doctor what he can or cannot do to treat me...so it can be
 
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Stab-o-Matic5000

Cutting Edge in Murder
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Let's talk about health care. In this bill, the government will be able to monitor what treatment you're receiving from your doctors. This was slipped into the bill. Very scary to me. Can you say socialism?

I don't know about you, but I don't want the government telling my doctor what he can or cannot do to treat me...so it can be
The optimist in me can see how that could be a good thing. Making sure that people aren't given conflicting prescriptions that could cause a harmful reaction, for example. However, it does seem too broad.

Now, I have to ask, is that in the house version, or the senate version?
 

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
#8
The problem is what's in the bill that is just now coming out.

Does anyone like the idea of the government creating a huge medical database and telling your doctor what operations they can and can't do on you based on costs and your age?
Bloomberg.com: Opinion
The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
Does anyone like giving 4.1 Billion dollars to ACORN? You know, the voter fraud people.
Republicans Object to Stimulus Dollars for ACORN - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

There's a lot of crap in here that does nothing to help the economy and unfortunately, it was never debated on because we had to do it RIGHT NOW!!
 

Jeanie

still nobody's bitch
V.I.P.
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Let's talk about health care. In this bill, the government will be able to monitor what treatment you're receiving from your doctors. This was slipped into the bill. Very scary to me. Can you say socialism?

I don't know about you, but I don't want the government telling my doctor what he can or cannot do to treat me...so it can be

that's not Socialism. I'm constantly amazed by the number of people who are quick to call "Socialism" who don't really understand what Socialism is.
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Edited to add: perhaps that's in an effort to keep the rising costs of health care in check.
 
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Stab-o-Matic5000

Cutting Edge in Murder
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The problem is what's in the bill that is just now coming out.

Does anyone like the idea of the government creating a huge medical database and telling your doctor what operations they can and can't do on you based on costs and your age?
Bloomberg.com: Opinion


Does anyone like giving 4.1 Billion dollars to ACORN? You know, the voter fraud people.
Republicans Object to Stimulus Dollars for ACORN - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

There's a lot of crap in here that does nothing to help the economy and unfortunately, it was never debated on because we had to do it RIGHT NOW!!
A couple things, the money isn't specifically going to ACORN, what is actually happening is that money that was previously allocated for state and local governments only will be available to be given to non-profit organizations. The article you linked to even said that. Republicans are saying "Well, they could just throw that money to ACORN and rig elections!" Or, you know, they could give that money to people like the Red Cross to help with emergency responses, or food banks to help people who are on the street and starving. See, I can spin things too.