Republicans: "Ground Zero is sacred, the emergency workers are not"

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Merc, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    CNN.com

    So the whole summer is spent bitching and crying about a mosque several blocks away 'tainting' the area or being a victory for terrorists . . . and then you vote against a bill that would help the people you love putting on your promotional materials, the emergency response workers? To me, the problem is this: for the democrats, no price is too high and for republicans, no price is too low. But of all the things to give money to, why not support those who gave aid during the events of 9/11?

    Thoughts?
     

  2. CaptainObvious

    CaptainObvious Son of Liberty V.I.P.

    I especially agree with your last sentence, of all the things to give money to, why not support those who gave aid on 9/11. This bill is long overdue. I hope the Senate passes this quickly and aid goes to those who need it ASAP.
     
  3. icegoat63

    icegoat63 Son of Liberty V.I.P. Lifetime

    I was unable to find the original article on CNN.com

    But yeah, I find it a little odd that the standard Right Wing chant is "I support our Soldiers abroad". Then compared to the voting action here... it doesn't make sense that our Closest heroes at home get tossed to the side.

    Personally... I dont consider Ground Zero Sacred at all. In my opinion, considering it Sacred only immortalizes the Radical actions that took the towers down. Instead, I'd much rather see Ground Zero cleaned up, excavated, and Rebuilt on asap.

    If we're gonna dump money into Ground Zero as some sort of "Point of interest" now... I'd much rather just see the money dumped into Demo and Construction Contractors to get something Rebuilt. As a Symbol to show those who supported the Radical Action... that it will take more than two buildings being knocked down to Rattle this Whole Nation.

    I'm not saying 9/11 wasn't serious...I realize its the Largest Death toll ever recorded from a Terrorist Attack. But I do believe that alot of the reverence towards the site itself is unnecessary. How many other nations have sustained Terrorist Actions that shook their Nation? Do they Dwell over the sites too? Or do they Rebuild and carry on with life as usual?

    Just feels like to me that we went about it wrong. Started off right IMO... then during Bush's 2nd Term we just lost the focus and fell off what I felt was the right track.

    But yeah I'm rambling... back to the OP;

    I'm glad that the Bill Passed. This is one of those Situations where its more than obvious that these Damn Politicians are out of Sync with their Constituencies.

    Seriously though... I would bet my life savings on it that if we were to take a literal Poll with the hypothetical situation saying "I've got 1 billion Dollars that HAS to go to either;

    A) Building a Ground Zero Memorial that the State of New York can Tax you to go stand next to and take a picture With or...
    B) Divide it up amongst the Emergency Service Men and Women that Risked Life and Limb to save other lives and control the situation...

    Where do you want it to go?"

    We would have a Super Majority and then Some all in favor of B.
     
  4. SmilinSilhouette

    SmilinSilhouette Registered Member

    Just a question: do any of you know what is in the "The James Zadroga 9/11 Health Bill"? What are its merits? What are its drawbacks, if any? Could there be any reasonable justification to vote against it? I'm a little skeptical that the name of any bill actually reflects what is in a bill or what it will or will not accomplish.
     
  5. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    For you Goat

    SS: Here's the whole bill (it's in a link on the sidebar). Also, it's $25 per American, why would so many republicans vote against it? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
     
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  6. SmilinSilhouette

    SmilinSilhouette Registered Member

    I'm well aware of that site and that the bill is there. My question is did you, CO, or Goat actually read what is in the bill, even just the summary, or are you just supporting the idea based upon a news story about it?
     
  7. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    SS, if you're going to be ridiculing us for not knowing each word in the bill, why haven't you read it all yourself? I doubt you could find even a poltician who has read it in its entirety and I even googled some republican opinions on it and I've found nothing substantial. My assumption is that if there was something significant in the bill, the republicans would be screaming about it (like they usually do).
     
  8. SmilinSilhouette

    SmilinSilhouette Registered Member

    I'm not ridiculing anyone, it was a simple question (one that you have not answered). I did read the summary before I made my initial post, have you yet? I think there are some things worth debate, but I'm not going to get into it with those who will not take the time to find out for themselves. We can talk about news articles until we're blue in the face, but that is pointless!
     
  9. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    I'm calling bullshit :D

    If you had read anything, you'd be quoting it already and bringing up these debatable points you claim to have. You and I both know that thinking someone didn't know something you did is far from a reason you'd use for not responding. All I've read is the summary as well and like I said I googled for some republican dissent and I've found no substantial reasoning outside of the standard right wing fare ("no handouts!").
     
  10. SmilinSilhouette

    SmilinSilhouette Registered Member

    Better think again!

    So you are aware it covers more than just responders or that there is plenty of built in bureaucracy right?

    So you are aware that anyone that may (or may not) have been in the area has a potential claim for mental illness? How can it be proven where one was at the time of the incident?

    Maybe you should read it before you respond, I'm going to bed!
     

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