Recreational Drugs

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Bananas, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    Whilst Mr. Phelps is in the hotseat for being pictured with a bong we can assume that whatever was in the Olympians bong was not for medicinal purposes and was purely recreational.

    How should the law treat those willing to take drugs for pleasure? should it carry the same weight as those for medicinal use or should they differ?

    Should there be a law at all? maybe certain recreational drugs, just like alcohol, should be legal or at least decriminalised if they are not already in your state/country. Or perhaps as they serve no purpose other than pleasure whilst also having to some extent displayed the damage on individuals and society the penalty for such drugs should be harder.

    How do we determine the level of penalty that should accompany each drug for example how does Cannabis compare to Ecstasy?

    Further Notes; This is specificaly about drugs for recreational use. When we refer to drugs like cannabis it is in reference to getting high and not for its pain alleviating properties.

    By brief definition:

    Legal = permissable in that it breaks no laws.
    Restricted = laws define clearly the what and the where.(ie. in your own home is okay)
    Lax/tolerate = laws are present but largely ignored.
    Decriminalised = it is illegal but not a crime per se (like not wearing your seat belt)
    Prohibition = by law it is completly illegal.

  2. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    Recreational drugs should be legal. What you put into your body is your choice, not the government's.

  3. wooly

    wooly I am the woolrus

    I'm a strong believer that marijuana should be either 'Legal' or 'Restricted' out of the choices above.

    (Lifted from a post i made in a similar topic)

    A legal, regulated marijuana market would be better for all concerned. It would heavily reduce marijuana use and sales among teenagers especially. Plus the added risk of teenagers being expsed to other harder drugs in the illagal market.

    It would make the industrial production of hemp much more possible, which can be used as a bio-feul to reduce CO2 emissions. Did you know before marijuana was outlawed in america (due to racism, the fall of the cotton industry and LIES) most farmers HAD to grow hemp by law, because it was very valuable. George Washington grew hemp!

    Economically, the legalisation of marijuana would have huge benefits. Not only would the drug itself be able to be taxed (exactly the same as alcohol or cigarettes) but as mentioned above the hemp market would have huge benefits to countries whose current marijuana laws prevent it's industrial growth. Also, The legal sale of marijuana would take away the HUGE profits earned by illegal dealers. Often part of, or run by, criminal organisations.

    And finally: Marijuana is SAFE. not one person has ever died from marijuana use. and anybody that has died from illnesses related to smoking would have had the same illnesses from just smoking tobacco. think how many people die from overdoses of other drugs (including alcohol) each year? now compare it to the illegal, 'dangerous' drug marijuana. ZERO.
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  4. WesJones87

    WesJones87 RayzorBlade87

    Well I feel it should be completely prohibited. I don't think there's anything more selfish or degrading than filling your body with chemicals that are designed to change the way you think and act. There is a reason that it is illegal and that is because it does your body harm. A large number of accidents in the UK are drugs related, whether it's cocaine, heroin, or so-called harmless marijuana. It's not cool to smoke weed, or snort white powder up your nose, and you're more likely to die earlier. Plus, the argument that it helps you have fun is flawed, becasue many people, myself inculded, don't do any kind of drug or drink much alcohol and can still have fun.

    I'm drifting to another discussion from my main point here. My point is that I think it should be prohibited, but I know it won't ever be completely off our streets.
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  5. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    Does this include all recreational drugs; Heroin, crack, meth, cocaine, lsd, pcp, 2cb, Tranqs, poppers, ketamine? You honestly see no reason why there should be any legal issues over any of those listed?
  6. wooly

    wooly I am the woolrus


    Alcohol puts more people in A&E every weekend than anything else, and it has definately caused the death of much much more people than recreational drugs like marijuana, mushrooms etc.

    I really struggle to see the difference between the two. What makes marijuana so vile as opposed to alcohol that it should be completely prohibited?
  7. WesJones87

    WesJones87 RayzorBlade87

    Personal experience mostly. I've never experienced violence from someone who has had alcohol, but I have from drug users. I mean REAL violence. Thinking you're going to die violence.

    I've never even thought about taking drugs since then if that's what it does to you.
  8. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    So Wes, how do you thin kwe should differentiate between drugs, for example alcohol is a recreational drug and so is cannabis, as is heroin. Where is the line drawn and on what principles?
  9. OliviaGrace

    OliviaGrace Registered Member

    I've always thought weed should be legal, with restrictions. Like with booze, 21 and above or along those lines. I think it's just stupid to call it illegal.
  10. wooly

    wooly I am the woolrus

    I think the important differences between the softer and harder recreational drugs are...

    The drugs that i would say should be fully legal are drugs where you're relatively still in control of your actions (when you take them sensibly anyways). I'd count marijuana and alcohol in this category.

    At the next level i would have certain drugs as lax/tolerate or decriminalised. Any reality altering drugs i would have in this category. LSD, Salvia (which is already legal), certain species of mushroom etc. They're not highly addictive or dangerous, but should probably be taken in a private setting.

    Then there are certain drugs which i would make completely illegal. Meth, Heroin, Cocaine, etc. Anything in this category is either extremely highly addictive, or extremely dangerous. Most of the drugs in this category would usually have a very dangerous and widespread criminal link to them aswell.

    That's how i'd differentiate between them anyways.

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