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Major

4 legs good 2 legs bad
V.I.P.
I mean, I get why people don't like him. But it's not like he's blowing a game in the bottom of the ninth here.

The subtext of the anti-Tiger cheering is that he won't get to 18 majors, so he's somehow failed.
Considering that 7 or 8 years ago he was thought to be a lock to break Jack's record, it is sort of like he's blowing a game in the bottom of the ninth. Not that he doesn't still have a chance to get there. But I will not be cheering for that to happen. I'd rather root for Jordan Spieth to break the record.

Anyway, it looks like we're going to have a fantastic leaderboard heading into the weekend. Dustin Johnson currently leads, while Luke Donald, Jason Day, Zach Johnson, Adam Scott, Louis Oosthuizen, Retief Goosen, Charl Schwartzel, Justin Rose, and Jordan Spieth are all in contention, along with some other guys. Matsuyama birdied 7 of his first 10 holes today.

Anyone who appreciates great golf is doing themselves a disservice by only watching when Tiger is in contention.
 

Millz

Better Call Saul
Staff member
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The coolest thing about your post Major is that I've heard of all those guys you named haha

I hope Spieth wins his 3rd straight though
 

Babe_Ruth

Sultan of Swat
Staff member
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Seems like people are so quick to forget that Nicklaus was a huge ass himself in his career.

Dustin Johnson seems like a guy who's always going to be at the top of the leaderboard, but never going to be raising a major trophy Sunday night.
 

Rapier

Well-Known Member
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What's odd about it? It's no different than taking pleasure in watching your most hated teams lose, like the Yankees or Patriots or whatever. In Tiger's case, he's earned it with his lousy personality, lack of appreciation towards his fans, poor sportsmanship, and sleazy decisions he's made in his personal life. I don't care how many majors he's won. His past success doesn't make him a more likable person in any way.
Odd how the only pro golfer whose reputation isn't lily white is Tiger.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1700924-ranking-the-10-most-arrogant-golfers-of-all-time/page/11
Only one womanizer in the bunch.
 
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Rapier

Well-Known Member
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I mean, I get why people don't like him. But it's not like he's blowing a game in the bottom of the ninth here.

The subtext of the anti-Tiger cheering is that he won't get to 18 majors, so he's somehow failed.
You've got it. The MSM wants their guy to be the greatest golfer of all time. A doctor likely botched Tiger up.
 

Major

4 legs good 2 legs bad
V.I.P.
Seems like people are so quick to forget that Nicklaus was a huge ass himself in his career.
1. How is that relevant? Does that somehow justify Tiger's behavior?

2. I was 3 years old when Jack won his last major, so needless to say, I never had an opportunity to watch him during his prime.

3. I have never heard of Jack having poor sportsmanship or poor golf etiquette or a lack of respect for his fans (I even searched for it just now and couldn't find anything), nor was he a total scumbag off the course. He was a family man and he's been happily married for 55 years. He was also awarded a Congressional Gold Medal this year "for his promotion of excellence, good sportsmanship, and philanthropy."
 

Doc

Trust me, I'm The Doctor.
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I want to chime in to mention that golfers have the general distinction of being privileged, rich, white males. Without attempting to come off as a bigot I would like to point out that that demographic has historically had an easier time burying transgressions than other, less connected, demographics.

It's not that Tiger has done anything worse than any other golfer. He got caught. He was also the poster boy for a squeaky-clean role model. The current media thrives on tearing down public figures because that is what drives the ratings, money, and job market in those sectors. Tiger was dumb enough to forget that he was under intense personal scrutiny and fucked up.

We all know golf is a mental game. His very public transgressions have couple with back issues and a falling out with his long-time caddie to create one of the biggest landslides in sports. Tiger has the talent and charisma to come back from this massive hole he dug himself and end up in a more positive light than he ever was.

We all love a great best-worst-to best story.
 

Major

4 legs good 2 legs bad
V.I.P.
I want to chime in to mention that golfers have the general distinction of being privileged, rich, white males. Without attempting to come off as a bigot I would like to point out that that demographic has historically had an easier time burying transgressions than other, less connected, demographics.
While your points are true, I don't think they apply in this case. If you are saying that Tiger wasn't able to hide his transgressions because of his skin color, I just flat out disagree. There are also plenty of white golfers whose personal issues have been highly publicized.

Dustin Johnson had a problem with drug abuse (cocaine).

Phil Mickelson has been accused of tax evasion and illegal gambling.

And it's no secret that John Daly struggled with drinking and gambling.

It's not that Tiger has done anything worse than any other golfer. He got caught. He was also the poster boy for a squeaky-clean role model. The current media thrives on tearing down public figures because that is what drives the ratings, money, and job market in those sectors. Tiger was dumb enough to forget that he was under intense personal scrutiny and fucked up.
Not every professional golfer (especially the ones who are married) sleeps with hundreds of women, including prostitutes and porn stars, and pays them large sums of cash to keep quiet. Tiger probably isn't the only one, but I'd say that is the exception and not the norm. The rest of what you said, I can agree with.

And it's not even that I really care what these guys do with their personal lives. I think that sort of stuff should be kept private. I disliked Tiger long before the whole scandal. Perhaps if he were a nicer man on the golf course when he's in the public spotlight I would have an easier time dismissing the rest of his flaws.
 

Babe_Ruth

Sultan of Swat
Staff member
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From what I read over the years, Nicklaus was an ass for a major part of his career, but also learned to mellow out in his later years.
 

Major

4 legs good 2 legs bad
V.I.P.
Well I know he was a very intense competitor, which may have come across as him being an ass in an era of golf when everyone was very formal and proper. But honestly, I've never heard that he was/is anything but a great person.

Anyway, I was really hoping Spieth or Day would win, but I'm happy for Zach Johnson. Seeing him in tears during his post-round interview shows how much it meant to him. And his "victory lap," high-fiving hundreds of fans. It's easy to cheer for a guy like that.
 
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