EDIT: I feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but please don't qyuote the whole OP if it isn't revalent! It's annoying when one has to scroll down 50 pages to get to a point that does not benefit from quoting the OP. Okies. My friend typed all this up and I'll just copy and paste it and edit some thing into there. There would be no point in me typing everything again because I'd be saying exactly what she said with different words. It doesn't matter anyways 'cause we were discussing this online as she typed, so we both thought this up, though she typed and made sense of it. (The ramblings beforehand are her thoughts) I was debating with myself for a very long time whether or not to include her long complaints at the end since they can come off as very offensive. EDIT: Okay, I did, but I tried to edit some of the blatantly rude comments out. The bible she used is the Student's Application Bible. Fell free to not read all of this, though it might make you confused at the points. ----- Please take note that my main point does not appear until chapters 2 and 3. The verses quoted prior to are for your enjoyment and confusion. Now, I’m not trying to disprove anything here. I’m just here to show how it doesn’t make sense. The timing of all this stuff is what will murder the bible’s purpose one day. If the bible is the true Word of God, then He made an unbelievable amount of mistakes and is directly responsible for sin and evil. According to Him. I have no choice to believe that the bible is not completely the Word of God because God is perfection and the bible is not. GE 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. “Heavens” is an important term that I’ll (hopefully remember to) get back to later. (EDIT: Which I didn’t, but whatever) GE 1:2 The Earth was empty, a formless mass cloaked in darkness. And the spirit of God was hovering over its surface. Okay. Everything about this verse makes no sense. First of all, you cannot have an “empty” mass. If there is nothing inside of it, then there is no mass. Secondly, if it is “empty” and “formless,” then it has no surface, so you can’t be “hovering over” it, even if you are God. Thirdly, if it is “empty” and “formless,” then there is plainly nothing there. Unless God kind of made a weird, empty outline type thing of Earth. GE 1:3-5 Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that it was good. Then He separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness “night.” Together these made up one day. Interesting. Okay, so we have random light coming from nowhere (which is fine. I can accept that God is capable of making light “happen”) and shining into this formless, empty “mass” with no surface (i.e. nothing). But it’s interesting how He made “day” and “night” without the sun. And how do you "separate light from the darkness"? You can either have one or the other. GE 1:6-8 And God said, “Let there be space between the waters, to separate water from water. And so it was. God made this space to separate the waters above from the waters below. And God called this space “sky.” This happened on the second day. First off, where did the “waters” come from? I don’t recall him “speaking it into existence.” And then, I suppose we can assume that the water is now the Earth’s “mass” since there is nothing else as of yet. Apparently, the layout is this: waters (top), sky (middle), and waters (bottom). GE 1:9-10 And God said, “Let the waters beneath the sky be gathered into one place so dry ground may appear.” And so it was. God named the dry ground “land” and the water “seas.” And God saw that it was good. Wait a minute. Shouldn’t one assume that the “waters beneath the sky” were already in one place? Well, whatever. So now He has gathered the waters into one place. So now, we have random water hovering over nothing. Remember that the land is not under the water, but rather, beside it. We’ll come back to this point in a little bit. GE 1:11-13 Then God said, “Let the land burst forth with every sort of grass and seed-bearing fruit. The seeds will then produce the kinds of plants and trees from which they came.” And so it was. The land was filled with seed-bearing plants and trees, and their seeds produced plants and trees of like kind. And God saw that this was good. This all happened on the third day. Nothing wrong with this thus far. We’re going to have to play along and accept that God can still speak this stuff into existence, which I have no problem doing. If He’s God, then shouldn't He be able to? GE 1:14-19 And God said, “Let bright lights appear in the sky to separate the day from the night. They will be signs to mark off the seasons, the days, and the years. Let their light shine down upon the earth.” And so it was, for God made two great lights, the sun and the moon, to shine down upon the earth. The greater one, the sun, presides during the day; the lesser one, the moon, presides through the night. He also made the stars. God set these lights in the heavens to light the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. This all happened on the fourth day. Okay, there’s a lot to say about this one. It’s interesting how God speaks of the moon as its own light source, and its interesting how people used to believe the same thing back when the bible was written until modern(ish) science proved that its light came from the sun. And then He made the stars to “govern [direct, supervise, etc.] the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness.” I thought that the sun and moon were supposed to do those things? Sure, the sun is a star, but one star doesn’t need another to “govern” it. And it’s also interesting how God “set these lights in the heavens to light the earth,” and yet the only star capable of doing such is the sun. Why make stars to “light the earth” and put them too far away to do so? And does this mean that space is one layer of “the heavens"? And why is much of the bible based upon geocentric views? Now, God just made the sun and the moon (and He has yet to make the Earth revolve around the sun, but I suppose we’re just suppose to assume this from now on), which technically makes everything that has happened thus far one day. Plainly having light does not constitute day and night. (I hope that) everyone knows that, in order to have “one day,” the Earth must rotate so that all "sides" may “face the sun.” Once again, light can’t “separate” itself from the darkness. It’s either one or the other. And what of the waters above the sky? I don’t recall him ever doing anything with those previously or in the future. One can only assume, I guess. GE 1:20-23 And God said, “Let the waters swarm with fish and other life. Let the skies be filled with birds of every kind.” So God created great sea creatures and every sort of fish and every kind of bird.” And God saw that it was good. Then God blessed them, saying, “Let the fish multiply and fill the oceans. Let the birds increase and fill the earth. This all happened on the fifth day. Firstly, one cannot create “birds of every kind” and “every sort of fish” at once. Given endless evolution possibilities and God’s “creative” measures, that literally is an endless amount of fish and birds. Earth would not be able to hold all of these at once unless it was infinite. And, one can imagine that each of these birds and fish must have been amazingly huge due to zero toxins (i.e. pollution) and the (feasible) amount of oxygen in the air. Thousands (millions?) of years ago, there was 20% more oxygen in the air, and ...bug...studiers (name?) made models of what they suspected bugs to have looked like back then (not bible days back then). Those were already huge. One can only speculate how immense birds and fish (which are generally much larger than insects are as it is) were. And, technically speaking, this would be the second day. On another note, He didn’t specifically instruct this to happen to the “waters beneath the sky,” so is one to assume that this happened to the “waters above the sky” as well? GE 1:24-25 And God said, “Let the earth bring forth every kind of animal—livestock, small animals, and wildlife.” And so it was. God made all sorts of wild animals, livestock, and small animals, each able to reproduce more of its own kind. And God saw that it was good. Firstly, did God “speak these into existence,” or create them by hand? The manner is confusing there. And, once again, there is no possible way to create every kind of animal and have room for them on one Earth. This is on the “sixth” day. This is technically the second time He created the fish and birds (they are wildlife, and He said that He brought forth every kind of animal, including wildlife). GE 1:26-31 Then God said, “Let us make people in our image, to be like ourselves. They will be masters over all life—the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all livestock, wild animals, and small animals.” So God created people in His own image; God patterned them after Himself; male and female He created them. God blessed them and told them, “Multiply and fill the earth and subdue it. Be masters over the fish and birds and all the animals.” And God said, “Look! I have given you the seed-bearing plants throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food. And I have given all the grasses and other green plants to the animals and birds for their food.” And so it was. Then God looked over all He had made and He saw that it was excellent in every way. This all happened on the sixth day. Firstly, who is “us?” God and the animals and plants and the stars and the sun and the moon, etc.? Secondly, if people are made in God’s image, then He must look an awful lot like a person, but we’ll get to that point in a little bit. I have to wonder why He tells of everything in sequential order (I suppose), and then, in the next chapter, skips back to (one can only assume) the “sixth” day. My points begin with the second chapter, which begins with the next quote. Remember that everything He made thus far was “excellent in every way.” That is an extremely important point. GE 2:1 So the creation of the heavens and the earth and everything in them was completed. So, according to this, God had just now (assumedly) made angels, after the creation of people ([assumedly] Adam and Eve). This is very important as well. But this point won’t be elaborated until chapter three, which is not far from here. But this is day six/three. GE 2:2-4 On the seventh day, having finished His task, God rested from all His work. And God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy because it was the day He rested from all His work of creation. This is the account of the creation of the heavens and the earth. I just put this there ‘cause I may as well not skip any versus. It does not really add to anything important. GE 2:5-7 When the LORD God made the heavens and the earth, there were no plants or grain growing on the earth, for the LORD God had not sent any rain. And no one was there to cultivate the soil. But water came up and out of the ground and watered all the land. I’m confused. This isn’t what it previously said happened. Didn’t the plants and stuff just “come” because God “spoke them into existence?” And remember how God separated the land from the water, so when did water appear under the land (it is still "beside" it)? I suppose it’s like how the waters were “just there” before God “spoke them into existence.” And why not point all this out the first time? And why would He need to send any rain? They didn’t need rain the first time, and now, all of a sudden, they need rain and there was water coming from the ground? And is this implying that it rains from the ground? GE 2:7 And the LORD God formed a man’s body and breathed into it the breath of life. And the man became a living person. And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there He had placed the man He had created. And the LORD God planted all sorts of trees in the garden—beautiful trees that produced delicious fruit. At the center of the garden He placed the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Since God made man on the sixth/third day, we can assume that this is referring back to the sixth/third day. If I recall correctly, didn’t God already create all the plants and whatsits to fill the entire earth? So why is He just now crafting Eden? Unless He is doing so again. And notice how He had created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil before He created Lucifer (later known as “Satan/Devil/etc.”). Remember, one can assume that He created man before He created angels (i.e. Lucifer). In any case, why have a tree have knowledge of “good” and “evil” rather than man? And in order to “create the knowledge,” one has to create it (i.e. evil) first, right? So does that mean that God directly created evil? Why even create the concept? What’s the point? GE: 2:10-14 A river flowed from the land of Eden, watering the garden and then dividing into four branches. One of these branches is the Pishon, which flows around the entire land of Havilah, where gold is found. The gold of that land is exceptionally pure; aromatic resin and onyx stone are also found there. The second branch is the Gihon, which flows around the entire land of Cush. The third branch is the Tigris, which flows into the east of Asshur. The fourth branch is the Euphrates. Okay. Nothing important here. Again, may as well not skip. Someone might think I “intentionally skipped something important.” GE: 2:15-17 The LORD God placed the man in the Garden of Eden to tend and care for it. But the LORD God gave him this warning: “You may freely eat any fruit in the garden except for the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. If you eat of its fruit, you will surely die.” Interesting. Again, one can assume that this is happening on the sixth day, but this is the exact opposite of what the bible said God said in earlier verses. Don’t remember? And now, all of a sudden, Adam can’t eat from one of the trees. God apparently said these at the same time or something, but it’s hard to tell since these are two different stories. At any rate, one can assume that the concept of “bad” would not have been understood by Adam seeing as “everything was excellent in every way.” Nothing “excellent” could be bad. Unless bad is good in God’s eyes. And it’s funny (in a sarcastic kind of way) how the tree of knowledge of good and evil is “excellent in every way.” Also, people tell me that “Satan created death,” but, to me, it sure sounds like God created the concept of death as well as evil. Still before (assumedly) angels (i.e. Lucifer) were created. GE 2:18-23 And the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a companion who will help him.” So the LORD God formed from the soil every kind of animal and bird. He brought them to Adam to see what he would call them, and Adam chose a name for each one. He gave names to all the livestock, birds, and wild animals. But still there was no companion suitable for him. So the LORD God caused Adam to fall into a deep sleep. He took one of Adam’s ribs and closed up the place from which He had taken it. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib and brought her to Adam. So we run into a few problems with this one. Firstly, it comes across as Adam needing a “companion” to “help him” tend for the Garden of Eden, not ultimately for companionship. Or at least that’s how the verse makes it sound. Secondly, if I can recall correctly, this is the third time God has created every type of animal imaginable (and why separate “birds” and “animals?” Aren’t birds animals?). Didn’t He do that one the second and third (i.e. first) day? And (wo)man was not created until the sixth/third day. So, now, mysteriously, man was created before animals, and then woman after man and animals (I forgot to point this out, but the earlier verse was suggesting their creation was at the same time). Peculiar? This is the third time the story has changed. And what is the purpose of naming all these animals at once? How could he possibly remember all these names? And it is interesting how a professional would be needed (in some cases) to correctly identify one animal and plant from another because of blunt similarities within species, and yet, Adam happened to just “know” the differences between them all. And why didn’t he name the all fish and trees and well? It’s not like doing so makes any less sense than randomly being able to differentiate between and name all the animals. Again, Earth would not be able to even hold all the animals imaginable, unless God doesn’t have a very large imagination (that, an the fact that evolution has created millions of new plants and animals annually). And every animal wouldn’t be able to survive on earth (“every animal imaginable” does not only imply earthly animals, right?) Why did God seem frustrated when trying to find a companion for Adam (and making all the animals for the third [second in some cases] time)? Shouldn’t He have known that only the woman should have been right for Adam? Why did He seem so perplexed? Does this mean that God is not all-knowing?