Political leanings

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Gryf

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Okay, someone needs to throw a bit of light on this subject, so I'll do what I can.

What are your REAL political leanings? Here are the dichotomies I've worked out, though I might need to be educated more extensively on the nomenclature.

Here goes:

Elitist: you think that people who have worked hard to become affluent members of society should be compensated for their labors and contributions. You don't really mind social inequalities, and you tend to distrust politicians who make promises to the "common man" or the "socially downtrodden." Poor people annoy you, and you think that they take too much advantage of the welfare system.
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Populist: you respect politicians who promise to bring relief to the poor and to fight against special interests. The politician you are most likely to vote for promises "more for everyone, not just a chosen few." You honestly think that the wealthy have a dangerous political hegemony. There are variants or areas of concern, but you are allured by politicians who promise to "stand up for the little guy."

Collectivist: you think that the overall welfare of the population and the state is an important voting issue. You like politicians who promise to be "tough on crime" and serve out longer sentences. You think that everyone has certain responsibilities to society and should be expected to fulfill them. In your opinion, individual needs and wants should not be upheld at the sacrifice of the many. You think that it's perfectly acceptable to ban firearms or violent video games if it makes your society a safer place. You feel that smoking bans are sometimes necessary for public health.
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Libertarian: you don't trust the government to get anything right. You think that the highest value is your personal liberty, even if it goes against the "greater good." You tend to use the term "nanny state" when confronted with a legislation that disrupts your personal choices, and you may think that the "government which governs least governs best." You tend to find having to pay income taxes highly offensive.

Progressive: you are all for the government trying new things. You think that a politician should bring in ideas and speak specifically on ways of making the world a better place. You find the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" highly closed-minded and ultimately foolish. You have a sunny outlook on the future, and you think that the main responsibility of the government is propelling the nation forward and preparing for things to come.
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Conservative: you may heavily value tradition, and you tend to feel that a government that wants to change things around is treating the populace like lab rats for the sake of pursuing their own pet projects or ideologies. You don't want to have to go back to college just to stay on the job, and you think that the government, on the whole, has lost touch with its values. Your friends may call you a little closed-minded or old-fashioned at times, but you feel that they respect you for your values and morals.


I don't like the conservative/liberal dichotomy in American politics, largely because it is highly misleading. The parties in our country are actually highly factionalistic and may have representatives of deeply conflicting views. Based on the above, what would you say are your political leanings?
 

Corona

Registered Member
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<-- Elitist Libertarian

Anarchist- You believe that no government is to ultimate form of government, you believe people should have the freedom to do whatever they wish, whenever they wish, however they wish. The individual must only recognize himself and has no obligation to others. (Libertarian on crack)
 
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Sgt Schultz

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None of those describe me. The closest though is probably liberatarian, because of the personal freedom issues but that it is. There are many other issues that I disagree with them on though. I'm a lot more complicated and can't be stuck into one slot politically.
 

Corona

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None of those describe me. The closest though is probably liberatarian, because of the personal freedom issues but that it is. There are many other issues that I disagree with them on though. I'm a lot more complicated and can't be stuck into one slot politically.
Independent...
Or Centrist.
 
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Gryf

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The idea behind this was to hopefully improve upon our understanding of what forces determine the way we vote. It isn't necessarily to stick anyone into a slot, but it gives you six more options than the liberal/conservative dichotomy and four more than the political compass thing. Just think of it as food for thought if nothing else.
 
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Gryf

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I'd have to say that using only the options you've given that I'm a progressive.
Okay. What do you think of the other political dichotomies? I would estimate you to be populist, rather than elitist, but how do you feel about collectivism? Do you consider yourself individualistic and value personal freedom, or do you need a strong sense of belonging and value duty? When you go out to vote, do you do so out of a sense of obligation or out of personal interest in the outcome of the election? I think that this is what I was getting at with the collectivist/libertarian dichotomy.

I know there are probably several other dichotomies, but these are the three that I'm most interested in lately and clobbering myself to understand. I also think that these are the main dichotomies present in Western politics.
 

Swiftstrike

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I follow under the Libertarian sect of probably the categories given. However you forgot to put the Liberal/Leftist/Socialist up there. I am more closely a liberal on the spectrum.


Libertarian and Liberal are different in more than just a few respects. Though they are both leftist.
 
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Gryf

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No forgetting here. I intentionally left those out because they were too vague. Liberalism is a wonderful social movement, but it embodies too broad a spectrum of ideas to be effective at estimating one's actual political leanings. The "political Left" is an almost completely arbitrary term, and I consider it meaningless. Socialism comes in too many forms and flavors for the term to be particularly meaningful on its own.

The OP was not a list of political philosophies or an attempt to label people. It was an attempt on my part to work out how to best describe some of the forces which determine our political leanings. I find those who describe their political leanings with pat labels rather dumb. Even these three dichotomies, assuming they amount to anything, could never fully describe what motivates one politically, but I think that it gives a clearer picture than the usual vagaries.