Political FIRESTORM (careful its gonna get hot)

[feral_films]

are you ready?




ill warn you, if your sensitive about politics, maybe you should not read further.




here's my firestarter:

if conservatives are conserving, what is it they want to conserve, because its not the enviroment?

if democrats want democracy, then why did they not say anything about the polling place in iowa that got more votes for bush than there were people registered?

if the opposite of pro is con, is the opposite of progress congress?

and why, why, why cant we ever have a president that was actually poor once in his live? i mean real poor, like had to eat from a dumpster poor.

so poor as to not have health insurance to be allowed a doctors visit.

so poor as to understand what it means to live on $5 an hour.

so poor that you have to sell the car to afford the taxes

and can someone please explain to me why it is that everyone knows both parties are sold out to the mega corporations, but we still vote for them?

 

[fairyquadmother]

yeah right, like I"ll touch that. I'm already in a pissy mood, so I doubt you want that wrath. I'll let you go toe to toe with my boyfriend if you like, I've yet to meet anyone that beat him in a political debate.

 

[feral_films]

i will debate anyone, as long as they dont resort to trying to insult, demean, or skip topics.

when i debat i hit all the big buttons, the drug farce, i mean war (on american citizens rights) (on iraq) (or supporting wars against people (zapatas, ect)

i just wonder how this country thinks it's so good, when so many people in this country cant even go to a doctor. you can go, but then you can't afford it

i went to the hospital (had to go to er, they told me)
all i wanted was to have my foot xrayed to see if it was broken

they:
put me in a waiting room for over an hour
checked me into or
made me wait there for another hour
sent me to get my xray (took 5 mins)
waited in the or for another hour
the doctor didn't even touch my foot (i didn't even want a dr, just a print of the xray)
didnt give me any prescripts or wraps, or even a tissue
billed me for 2 days in er (because i got there at 11:45pm
charged me a FULL doctors visit (they barely took my temperature)
sent me a bill for $2000

i looked at the bill, it cost $250 for the xray, so i paid that part to the independant contractor that does xray (god i hate hypercorporations) and told the er billing i didnt even want to be admitted, they purposely made me wait to go into the er (it was empty, but not the waiting room), and right before midnight everyone got let in. so they can charge everyone for 2 days (in case they got done before midnight)

i swear, i will never ever ever go to a hospital again.

at least not one in the us.

if it wasn't for the 'insurance' companies, it would be bearable. its like the mafia taking a 'cut' of the doctors wages.

if we HAVE TO pay the insurance, why dont they HAVE TO pay out a valid claim?

ok im done now

i dont hate america, i just think the religion and bussiness need to be taken back out of the government (again, and again, and again)

every 100 years we need to rewrite the constitution, and not with things that say what you cant do

why is the land of the free trying so hard to take away our freedoms (gay marriage, cannabis, hemp ect)

 

[AngelsPeak]

There is no way a good political debate can be held on-line! A good debate has 2 parties armed with the facts and ready with quick rebuttals. They DO NOT have Google access. Believe me we recently tried the debate thing and it got VERY ugly. I think this is best left for a face-to-face discussion!

 

[feral_films]

well first off, hemp is the industrial strain

cannabis (the smoking strain) is whats used for medical

why should smoking pot only be harmful BECAUSE IT"S ILLEGAL?

people who smoke pot are the nicest people in the whole world
i have never met anyone who only smokes cannabis, and doesnt smoke tocracko, i mean tobacco, that isnt nice.

most every person i know who drinks alchohol (devil water) are the people who get into fights, break into houses, commit violent crimes, sex crimes & crash their car into innocent families.

if you ask me (and i know you wish you didnt) i'd tell you that the reason marijuana is illegal is because companies like AB and pfizer would stand to lose too much money (who wants to drink and get violent and stupid and crash your car)

if you could smoke a joint without having to worry about the police arresting you, taking your car, house, kids, job, money for education, your potential to ever have a good job. then marijuana would be relatively harmless

in short, the law does far more harm than the alledged "crime"

11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. genesis 1:11-12 (king james version copied from http://www.bibleontheweb.com/bible.asp )

GOD is perfect,
man is not.
man made whisky,
GOD made pot.
who do you trust?

 

[AngelsPeak]

WOW, He's a rebel! Although my fingers are just itching to type a reply, I will practice restraint and just allow your opinion to roam free!

 

[feral_films]

There is no way a good political debate can be held on-line! A good debate has 2 parties armed with the facts and ready with quick rebuttals. They DO NOT have Google access. Believe me we recently tried the debate thing and it got VERY ugly. I think this is best left for a face-to-face discussion!

well, i only looked up that quote to get a direct exact copy of the text

also, i am very involved with a NORMAL group of people trying to show the world that cannabis is actually good for humans, dogs, plants and other living things.

i also feel passionately that alchohal is bad, i have lost quite a few close people to iddiots out there drinking that devil water and killing innocent people.

i dont drink at all, but yet i have been hit by drunk people twice myself

if your going to drink, do it at home, or leave your car there and take a taxi.

my prediction for the future: road rage, drunks get shot at by sober drivers who are just trying to stay alive

really i think it might come down to it soon enough.

if they want a drug free america, should they not also outlaw asprin, viagra & caffiene?

 

[fairyquadmother]

political debates friends do not make.

I do not CARE what everyone's political beliefs are here. I like the people here (well, 95% of them). I can GUESS what they voted last year, but because of I care about them and want to keep them as friends, we'll politely smile at election time and go back to talking about AUCTIONS.

 

[nani1987]

i will debate anyone, as long as they dont resort to trying to insult, demean, or skip topics.

when i debat i hit all the big buttons, the drug farce, i mean war (on american citizens rights) (on iraq) (or supporting wars against people (zapatas, ect)

i just wonder how this country thinks it's so good, when so many people in this country cant even go to a doctor. you can go, but then you can't afford it

i went to the hospital (had to go to er, they told me)
all i wanted was to have my foot xrayed to see if it was broken

they:
put me in a waiting room for over an hour
checked me into or
made me wait there for another hour
sent me to get my xray (took 5 mins)
waited in the or for another hour
the doctor didn't even touch my foot (i didn't even want a dr, just a print of the xray)
didnt give me any prescripts or wraps, or even a tissue
billed me for 2 days in er (because i got there at 11:45pm
charged me a FULL doctors visit (they barely took my temperature)
sent me a bill for $2000

i looked at the bill, it cost $250 for the xray, so i paid that part to the independant contractor that does xray (god i hate hypercorporations) and told the er billing i didnt even want to be admitted, they purposely made me wait to go into the er (it was empty, but not the waiting room), and right before midnight everyone got let in. so they can charge everyone for 2 days (in case they got done before midnight)

i swear, i will never ever ever go to a hospital again.

at least not one in the us.

if it wasn't for the 'insurance' companies, it would be bearable. its like the mafia taking a 'cut' of the doctors wages.

if we HAVE TO pay the insurance, why dont they HAVE TO pay out a valid claim?

ok im done now

i dont hate america, i just think the religion and bussiness need to be taken back out of the government (again, and again, and again)

every 100 years we need to rewrite the constitution, and not with things that say what you cant do

why is the land of the free trying so hard to take away our freedoms (gay marriage, cannabis, hemp ect)

wow. I don't normal post in debates but this issue about health insurance boy you are so correct...
about hospital you are correct...
I had my foot xray took them 5 mins to do it but kept me waiting 3 hr all becasuse i have medical and medicare... since it don't pay them much for it they kept me waiting longer than the ones who have insurance... i paid into the system for yrs before i becasue permanatively disabled and it pisses me off to see injustive not for me for all who have insurance.. the same time i was in the hospital there was a guy who was having chest pains and he didn't have no insurance what so ever they kept him waiting as long as I was.. that made me and my husband made we kept telling them , that hey this guy don't look so good and there response" we will call him in the order they were registered" so this shows that some hospital just care about your insurance and making sure you can pay..........and it turnned out the guy was having a heart attack. I swear I hope that guy does turn around and sue.. I was seen right after him.. I only knew this I was right next to him and code blue went off.. but i know he didnt' die.. thank God... but it so wrong how hospital can be so careless and heartless....... nani

 

[TGirl]

most every person i know who drinks alchohol (devil water) are the people who get into fights, break into houses, commit violent crimes, sex crimes & crash their car into innocent families.

if you ask me (and i know you wish you didnt) i'd tell you that the reason marijuana is illegal is because companies like AB and pfizer would stand to lose too much money (who wants to drink and get violent and stupid and crash your car)
11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. genesis 1:11-12 (king james version copied from http://www.bibleontheweb.com/bible.asp )

GOD is perfect,
man is not.
man made whisky,
GOD made pot.
who do you trust?

Whooooooowwwwaaaaa I was not going to reply, but now your messin with my drink....hahahahah BAhahahahah
If you are going to quote the Bible than maybe you can explain what God turned the water into???? I am pretty certain it was NOT Mr. Pib.......


ohhhh and by the way....I am a happy drinker...hahahahahahahah and never broke into anyones house....never commited any violent or sex crime...welll hmmm maybe I have....but no one pressed charges....