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Official Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons thread


Sultan of Swat
Staff member
There's also the other side of Dwyane Wade not being able to stop Richard Hamilton because he can't the guy is always on the move, and Wade is not a very good defender, also Rasheed relies to much on is shot, he rather take a jumper then drive the lane to commit a foul of the other player. The guy who needs to take over is Chauncey because like you stated earlier Jason Williams or Gary Payton cannot stop this guy.


It will be hard for Chauncey Billups to get 30 or 40 points especially when going up against Shaq and Alonzo Mourning. He needs to get 20 points and 10 assists, to help them a lot. I still think Tayshaun will be the biggest threat in this series for Miami, as we saw in the Cleveland series, they went to him when they needed points. It will be another good game tonight.


Sultan of Swat
Staff member
I know you've probably been watching the playoffs, and you probably noticed that if you drive the lane, and get touched a bit there mostly going to call a foul on the other team, now if Chauncey would drive the lane against Mourning and Shaq then that would get them in foul trouble. But I also agree on the other hand that he needs to get is other teamates involve, and to do that he needs to start dishing the ball to players, like Prince and Rip, they have to carry the load and get points.


Yes, i have been watching and they do call those fouls yet Billups doesn't drive to the basket enough and i still don't think that he will pick up fouls on Alonzo who is a smart shot blocker yet he could quite easily get Shaq to pick up fouls. They need Rip to shoot well and come off screens and Rasheed can't settle for the three pointers.


Game 2
Miami 88
Detroit 92

The number of turnovers is just inexplicable. The Heat have some issues. They mustve been poisoned or have some severe jet lag, because their passes are way too predictable. Wade dribbles to the baseline and as he flies out of bounds he tries to fling a pass over to Antoine Walker at the top of three point line. Obviously Rip Hamilton is good enough to read this play and deflects the pass. It results in a fast break for the Pistons and a score.

Other than turnovers, the Heat did not have a balanced effort at all. There was Shaq, Wade, Antoine Walker (at times), but where was everybody else on offense. Detroit on the other hand had contributions from pretty much everyone.

Me being a longtime Heat fan automatically causes me to make longer posts about them.

Detroit had a balanced offensive attack. They played good defense in spurts and capitalized on the Heat's mistakes. The Heat really looked like they were on drugs with the errant passes. Detroit had costly turnovers too but not as randomly. They werent a well-oiled machine but looked a little bit better than in Game 1.


A Darker Knight
I don't think it'd be a wise choice to rely on Walker too much. He's really inconsistant. Some nights, the basket's five feet wide for him, and others, it's 10 inches wide. Miami's probably going to have to make some major adjustments for game 3. Pistons have already figured them out. for the most part anyway.


Registered Member
Lol I thought I was reviewing this series. But anyways here's my review of game 2.

The Detroit Pistons got off to a great start, had a double-digit lead with less than a minute left and barely hung on.

Dwyane Wade and Shaquille O'Neal were spectacular for the Miami Heat.

Ultimately, however, all that matters is that the Eastern Conference finals are even.

Tayshaun Prince tied a career playoff high with 24 points and had 11 rebounds, Richard Hamilton scored 22 points, and Detroit bounced back -- as usual -- and beat Miami 92-88 Thursday night in Game 2.

Game 3 is Saturday night in Miami.

The Heat almost took a stunning and commanding 2-0 lead with a frantic rally -- scoring 17 points in the final 1:46 after trailing by 12.

Wade had 32 points, seven rebounds and five assists, while O'Neal was dominant with 21 points, 12 rebounds and four blocks.

O'Neal wants to inflict more damage.

Detroit, which led by as much as 14 points in the first half, went ahead 57-39 early in the second half on Hamilton's layup after Billups scored his first points on a 3-pointer and a layup.

A 10-2 run pulled Miami within six points midway through the fourth quarter. Rasheed Wallace's 3-pointer gave the Pistons an 81-71 lead with 2:41 left.

While thousands of fans headed home, Miami wasn't ready to concede even though it trailed 85-75 with just under a minute to go.

Wade's 3-pointer with 9.8 seconds left made it 90-88 after Prince was called for a 5-second violation on an inbounds pass, though the lanky forward said he called timeout.

The Pistons sealed the victory when Billups connected on two free throws and Lindsey Hunter made a steal.

The Heat had won four straight road games and five in a row overall.

Billups had 18 points and eight assists, Rasheed Wallace scored 16 and Ben Wallace added nine points and 12 rebounds.

Miami beat Detroit 91-86 in Game 1 and snatched home-court advantage away from the top-seeded team in the NBA playoffs. The Heat's new-look surrounding cast came through in that win -- while its superstars were in foul trouble -- with Antoine Walker, Gary Payton and Jason Williams combining for 41 points.

In Game 2, that trio contributed just 25 points.

Miami led 11-0 in the series opener in its first game in a week, while Detroit missed its first six shots playing two days after being pushed to seven games by the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Game 2 provided a stark contrast, with the Pistons appearing to have much more energy -- until the final minutes.

Detroit got off to such a good start that offensively challenged Ben Wallace was outscoring the Heat 7-6 midway through the first quarter. Prince made a 3-pointer that capped a 13-0 run to put Detroit up 18-6.

The Pistons led 25-12 after making 56 percent of their shots and holding Miami to 25 percent. It was the Heat's lowest scoring quarter of the playoffs, and the fewest points a team has scored against the Pistons in the first quarter this postseason.

Detroit had success in the first quarter keeping Wade out of the lane, forcing him to settle for three missed jumpers, and he had two points on free throws. He had 13 of his 25 points in the first quarter of Game 1 after making all six of his shots.

Wade got closer to the basket in the second quarter and also connected from the outside, scoring 14 points on 6-of-9 shooting.

Detroit scored the last seven points of the first half to take a 48-37 lead.

Wade and O'Neal combined for 26 points on 11-of-20 shooting in the first half, while the rest of the Heat had just 11 points after missing 14 of 18 shots.

Even though Billups didn't score in the first half, he had five assists and directed a free-flowing offense that helped Hamilton score 20, Prince 12 and Ben Wallace nine on 4-of-4 shooting.

And here are some game notes
O'Neal appeared to hurt his neck with 5:03 left in the game when his head collided with Walker's knee after trying to block a shot and tumbling over teammate James Posey. ... O'Neal has not lost a series after his team won Game 1, which has happened 25 times previously. ... Wade added to his Heat record by scoring at least 20 points this postseason for the 13th time. ... Detroit and Miami are meeting for the third time in the postseason, and the second straight year. The Heat lost on their home court last year in Game 7 of the conference finals, and swept the Pistons in the 2000 first round. ... In his previous four games, Walker averaged 19 points on 53 percent shooting. ... Wade had nine turnovers, tying a franchise-playoff record. ... Ben Wallace has made all seven of his field goals in the series, and one of four free throws. ... Hamilton had four steals, matching his career playoff high.


Sultan of Swat
Staff member
Yes Vegito you're reviewing these series because your doing a superb job, but if Midnight wants to put is input it's fine as well. This was a very good game, at first it was a blow out for the Pistons, but then the Heat came back and made it close, but never had a big chance to win the game. So now the series is tied going into Miami.


Registered Member
Okay here's my review of game 3.

The 12-point lead Miami held minutes earlier was whittled to a single point, and Antonio McDyess rose for a dunk that would have given the Detroit Pistons the lead and all the momentum.

Dwyane Wade chose that moment to take over.

He blocked McDyess' dunk try, then had a three-point play 8 seconds later to end a huge Detroit run. The Heat went on to beat the Pistons 98-83 on Saturday night in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference finals.

Heck, it might have been the biggest play of Miami's season.

Wade scored 35 points, O'Neal added 27 points and 12 rebounds, and they combined to shoot 24-for-32 from the floor for the Heat, who find themselves in the same situation they were in a year ago -- up 2-1 over the Pistons in the East finals, two wins from the franchise's first trip to the NBA Finals.

The Pistons thwarted those plans last year, rallying to win in seven games. If they have visions on doing that again, they'll have to find a way to slow Wade and Shaquille O'Neal -- because Miami's superstar duo scored nearly at will in Game 3.

Chauncey Billups scored 11 of his 31 points in the fourth quarter for Detroit. Richard Hamilton added 20 points before fouling out and Rasheed Wallace had 11, but Tayshaun Prince -- who averaged 20 points in the first two games of the series -- had only three.

The Pistons shot only 42 percent from the floor, while Miami shot 58 percent. Plus, the Heat held huge edges in rebounding (40-27) and points in the paint (50-16).

Of the last 32 series that were tied at a game apiece, Game 3 winners have prevailed 24 times.

But Detroit has recovered from 2-1 deficits three times since 2003 -- including last year, a result that neither the Heat nor the Pistons have forgotten. Game 4 is Monday night in Miami, before the series returns to suburban Detroit on Wednesday night.

Miami was up 12 entering the fourth, but nearly gave it all away in the first 4 minutes of the period.

Detroit opened with an 11-0 run, McDyess had a layup and a free throw, Rasheed Wallace hit a jumper and -- after O'Neal and Wade both missed a pair of free throws 35 seconds apart -- Billups hit back-to-back 3-pointers, getting the Pistons within 74-73 with 7:44 left.

O'Neal said such a run would have doomed the Heat earlier this season. Not anymore, especially not now, six wins away from an NBA title.

After Wade's block and three-point play, O'Neal spun away from Ben Wallace for a jump hook 25 seconds later, pushing the lead back to six. With his team trailing by eight, Saunders went to the Hack-a-Shaq with 4:28 left, and it worked.

Sort of, anyway.

O'Neal missed both tries after being intentionally fouled, keeping Detroit within eight -- but the Heat center got his own rebound, got fouled again, and hit each shot that time to put Miami up 85-75.

In turn, the Heat went to the Hack-a-Ben, putting Ben Wallace on the line with 3:32 left. He was 1-for-6 at the time, then missed two more, and Wade got the rebound. Antoine Walker hit Udonis Haslem for a dunk on the ensuing possession, giving Miami an 89-79 edge. And that essentially sealed the outcome.

Wade started 7-for-8 from the field for 15 points, including 13 consecutive Heat points in one stretch to give Miami a 30-24 lead. He didn't score again in the half, and the Heat still stretched the cushion to 49-38 by intermission. Wade set O'Neal up for a dunk on the Heat's final play of the half.

Detroit's starting backcourt of Billups and Hamilton combined for 21 points in the first quarter, but only five in the second when the Pistons were outscored 23-14. The Pistons further hurt themselves by going 3-for-10 from the foul line in the second quarter, when Miami wasn't awarded a single free throw.

The Pistons shot 17 of the game's first 20 free throws, with Miami going more than 17 minutes without a trip to the line. Wade hit a pair with 7:42 left in the third to end the drought, O'Neal hit two about a minute later, and the Heat stars had 18 points in the period to help Miami carry a 74-62 lead into the fourth.

And although that cushion all but vanished, the Heat survived.

And here are some game notes
Miami improved to 18-4 in its last 22 home playoff games. ... Prince hit a shot from the left side with 8:23 remaining in the half; problem was, he was out of bounds and trying to throw a lob to McDyess on an out-of-bounds play. ... Celebs in the sellout crowd included hip-hop mogul Diddy, singers Janet Jackson and Usher, plus Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.


A Darker Knight
3s = scary. 7 point lead and BAM! two three pointers and it's almost gone. Pistons made a great comeback with Billups making those 3s, but if no one else scores, Piston's wouldn't have won anyeway. And the hack-a-Ben ruined some important possesions for Detroit as well.