Obama/McCain neck and neck in PA

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
#2
This thing is neck and neck everywhere. Well, not Utah (McCain +30) or CA (Obama +20). The amazing thing about this election is there is a small but real possibility that it could fall to a 269-269 electoral tie. Wouldn't that be fun?
What's even better is the House of Representatives would decide the winner, if they couldn't the Senate would and if they couldn't Nancy Pelosi would take over as President. :jawdrop:
 

pro2A

Hell, It's about time!
#3
Whats sad is when a state like New York Obama only leads by 6%.... not its usual 20%+... If you ever have been to New York state, and you are a conservative, you are the minority.
 

Kazmarov

For a Free Scotland
#5
Marist poll today has Obama up 5 in PA. Current polling regression on New York is Obama +18.6%.

Electoral Vote takes the latest poll and doesn't weight based on quality. It's not very accurate at all.

Nice try.
 
#6
This race isnt even a race between left vs right. Anyone whos smart and looks into shit deeply will realize this. Its a race between extreme left vs right-center. Let me paint a diagram:



At this critical and diverse time in the USA's life, the closer to the center a president be the better. People need to really drop the partisan bullshit now. Its 2008. Think of this election as an election between the same party: the United States of fucking America party. Fuck this dems reps shit. Too many people get caught up in it and its making elections more focused on politically correctness and image than what they should really be on. If barrack obama had the same exact views stances and all that shit as he does today, and was a republican, he wouldnt have a damn chance, and its the same for mccain if he was a democrat. This is complete bs imo. BE CENTRALIST PEOPLE. BE SMART.
 
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Kazmarov

For a Free Scotland
#7
Its a race between extreme left vs right-center.
What's so leftist about him? He wants optional universal healthcare? That's to the right of most comparable Western liberal democracies, where it's government administered. He supports nuclear power and clean coal? He's moderately pro capital punishment? How are these positions inhabited by communists and militant leftists?
 

Kazmarov

For a Free Scotland
#9
He's practically a socialist.
He's an advocate of a mixed economy, just like John McCain.

Where is the center, Blur? Who determines it?

In the grand scheme of democratic political parties, the US Democratic Party is to the right of the center-right Christian Democrats (who advocate a welfare state, universal healthcare, etc). New Labor is socialist, and yet its leader went to war with GWB. The SDP is socialist, yet there are two other main German parties to the left of it.
 

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
#10
Whats sad is when a state like New York Obama only leads by 6%.... not its usual 20%+... If you ever have been to New York state, and you are a conservative, you are the minority.
I like the realclearpolitics page. They track all of the major polls and then do an average. You can get a sense of where the tide is heading and you can also spot polls that may be inaccurate by looking over everything.

This is the NY Page:RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - New York: McCain vs. Obama
This is the PA Page:RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Obama
This is the national page: RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama