Obama and The Constitution

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Van, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Van

    Van Heavy Weapons Guy V.I.P.

    This was dug up recently. It's an interview of Obama from 2001. Just wondering what your thoughts are.

    YouTube - Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered

    Some of the highlights:

    "And to that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren court -- It wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted and Warren interpreted it in the same way that generally is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the federal government can't do to you but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn't shifted and one of the, I think the tragedies of the civil rights movement. Was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. And in some ways we still suffer from that."

    Can we please stop with the "Obama isn't a radical" charade? He says the most extreme supreme court we've ever had "didn't go far enough." I'll admit I don't have the vast knowledge of understanding that the all knowing professor of law, but I could have sworn the founding fathers put constraints in the constitution for a reason. Mainly so that the federal government wouldn't become to powerful and so that it would leave the individual alone.

    Notice the one part, "Says what the federal government can't do to you but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf." He interprets it to be an incomplete document that only states what the government can't do to you, not what the government MUST to on your behalf (ironically even if you don't want it to...). Obama's "spread the wealth around" comment to Joe the plumber was an insight to what he actually believes. Socialism. He wants the government to control the country's wealth.

    Obama is a socialist.

    But of course, it's all just another smear right? It must be part of the vast right wing conspiracy (f.y.i., that's the code name for anyone who opposes socialism).
     
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  2. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    He knows if he takes the correct course of action to change the Constitution he'd loose his job real quick. So he goes around the back door to make it look like he's not doing it. He is slipperier then snot on Teflon...

    If he "taught" the Constitution, I'm sure he learned a lot of the back doors to it too.
     
  3. Mirage

    Mirage Administrator Staff Member V.I.P.

    He fails to understand the amendment process.

    Instead of reinterpreting the Constitution he should have to pass his radical new ideas as amendments. The amendment process is there for a reason.
     
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  4. Sim

    Sim Registered Member

    Bush and McCain stand for the most blatant violations of the Constitution in America's history. They stand for the extralegal detainment of innocent citizens from the streets, the detainment of people who have not been proven guilty of anything, denial of fair trials and torture. They are basically authoritarians.

    So Obama cannot possibly be that bad. At very least he is the smaller evil.

    But then, you McCain supporters here don't care for the Constitution. All you care for is smearing Obama, that's why expecting fair judgment from you is misled anyway. Obviously, pissing on the Constitution is all nice and fine, as long as Republicans do it.
     
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