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NHL Expansion

Millz

Better Call Saul
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I can't find it online yet but there's a rumor the NHL wants to add four expansion teams in 2017. Again, just a rumor.

Teams would be...

Toronto
Las Vegas
Quebec City
Seattle

Here's an article of the NHL denying it...

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/20 ... eport.html

No clue whether this will actually happen or not
 

willge87

Registered Member
I hope that Quebec City gets their team back. The rest of the markets I don't necessarily care about. I don't see the NHL working in Las Vegas, although that ECHL team has formed a bit of a niche there from what I understand.
 

Babe_Ruth

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Any expansion into Seattle is dependent upon building a new arena.

That proposal continues to be bogged down in details like obtaining permits and finalizing a site:

http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2 ... /14038960/

To summarize, there are several infrastructure/development issues with the preferred site, near Safeco Field and the Seahawks stadium.
 

BourneofDarkness15

Registered Member
For the love of it all please don't expand to Seattle, the traffic is bad enough here. Plus there's not a ton of in city room for a new arena, unless they level the Key Arena
 

Crypticshock

Registered Member
BourneofDarkness15 said:
For the love of it all please don't expand to Seattle, the traffic is bad enough here. Plus there's not a ton of in city room for a new arena, unless they level the Key Arena
The guy building the arena, Hansen I believe, has already stated that he will help improve the traffic (new roads/whatever). He also gave monetary insurances to the other arenas in the area if his new arena takes money from them... It was a sweet ass deal to the city.

Anyway - nuts and bolts. Where there is smoke, there is fire. NHL expansion is coming. It might not be four teams but it is coming.

Las Vegas - This one is hilarious and tricky. I ponder myself if the NHL would face litigation if they put a team in Vegas. Why? You might ask. There is currently a bill in the Canadian Senate which the NHL, NFL, MLB and NBA all traveled to Canada to fight. Bill C-290. It is a single betting bill. It would allow people to bet on a game... one game... right now Canadians have to place bets on at least 3 different games.

Seattle has complications with getting the arena built without a NBA team.

Markham City - More than likely that "Toronto" destination has their arena held up.

Quebec City - Ready to rock and roll for 2016 let alone 2017. Infact, they already have seats sold. Fans put $13M towards the project so they could have those seats the first day the Arena is completed.

I've said it two years ago. I will say it again. There will be NHL expansion (if not relocation) within 3 years. 2015-16 is the last year for the realignment - and I fully expect the realignment to change to reflect the new NHL environment.

Anyway, for fun.

Las Vegas Posse
Markham City Maniacs
Quebec City Mafia (Pretty sure it would be Nordiques)
Seattle Totems

P.S. Don't listen to anything that waste of human flesh Bill Daly has to say. On May 29th he was assuring fans in Atlanta that the NHL was intent on keeping the Thrashers in Atlanta. The next day, Gary Bettman announced the relocation of the Thrashers to Winnipeg. They are lawyers, Gary and Bill.
 

Babe_Ruth

Sultan of Swat
Staff member
V.I.P.
The biggest homefield advantage in sports would belong to a Vegas team if you imagine the visitors coming in the day before and living it up. It's easy to say just take those games off the board but most ticket buyers surely would want some action. There's no way the city would just give up all NHL gambling to land a team, the casinos wouldn't hear of it.
 

Millz

Better Call Saul
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I am really surprised / disappointed that neither Milwaukee or especially Kansas City were mentioned here. All the choices do make sense to me but KC has a ready made arena.

If it fails in Seattle I wouldn't be shocked to see KC sneak in.
 
I was also surprised that Kansas City wasn't mentioned in the conversation. We heard their name for so long about relocation/expansion that it feels weird not seeing them at the moment.

Right now, NHL has 5.2 billion reasons as to why they should add teams in Canada rather than in the US. Haters are still bringing up the fact that there are only 14 teams in the Western Conference but when you know that people will go to Markham & Quebec City as opposed to questions marks in Las Vegas & Seattle, what's the hiccup?

I think that for Markham, their biggest hiccup is MLSE. They can't be too thrilled at the idea of having another team in their territory. But with Tim Leiweke leaving the ship, who knows what stance they'll take on the matter in the future.
 

Crypticshock

Registered Member
I think that for Markham, their biggest hiccup is MLSE. They can't be too thrilled at the idea of having another team in their territory. But with Tim Leiweke leaving the ship, who knows what stance they'll take on the matter in the future.
Yeah... because it really hurts the New York Rangers. A second team in Toronto would hurt Buffalo more than the Leafs.
 

Babe_Ruth

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Crypticshock said:
I think that for Markham, their biggest hiccup is MLSE. They can't be too thrilled at the idea of having another team in their territory. But with Tim Leiweke leaving the ship, who knows what stance they'll take on the matter in the future.
Yeah... because it really hurts the New York Rangers. A second team in Toronto would hurt Buffalo more than the Leafs.
Exactly, if New York City had basically three teams for most of the last 30 years or so, and LA has two teams, there is no reason not to have a second team in Toronto, at least somewhere in the GTA. And no, Hamilton is not the answer, as the building is ancient and I doubt little excitement about spending $500 million on a new building there, especially after watching the city make a complete mess out of rebuilding Ivor Wynne Stadium. Plus I don't think it would take much to revive the Markham Arena plans with the real possibility of bringing a second NHL team to the area.
 
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