Most Guantanamo detainees are innocent: ex-Bush official

Steerpike

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Here is a link to the complete article.

Most Guantanamo detainees are innocent: ex-Bush official

Many detainees locked up in Guantanamo Bay were innocent men swept up by U.S. forces unable to distinguish enemies from noncombatants, a former Bush administration official said Thursday.

"There are still innocent people there," Republican Lawrence B. Wilkerson, former chief of staff to then-secretary of state Colin Powell, told the Associated Press. "Some have been there six or seven years."

Wilkerson, who first made the assertions in an internet posting on Tuesday, told the AP he learned from briefings and by communicating with military commanders that the U.S. soon realized many detainees held at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were innocent but nevertheless held them in hopes they could provide information for a "mosaic" of intelligence.
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"It did not matter if a detainee were innocent. Indeed, because he lived in Afghanistan and was captured on or near the battle area, he must know something of importance," Wilkerson wrote in the blog.

He said intelligence analysts hoped to gather "sufficient information about a village, a region, or a group of individuals, that dots could be connected and terrorists or their plots could be identified."

Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel, said vetting on the battlefield during the early stages of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan was incompetent with no meaningful attempt to discriminate "who we were transporting to Cuba for detention and interrogation."
What do you think about this?

"We need to put those people in a high-security prison like the one in Colorado, forget them and throw away the key," Wilkerson said. "We can't try them because we tortured them and didn't keep an evidence trail."
Here is an admission of torture by the United States under the George W. Bush Administration.

Anything in the article is fair for discussion.

Discuss.
 
#2
The soldiers in Iraq are being pulled out. Now will happen to these soldiers? They will be stationed in Afghanistan, the next big terror threat to the States. I doubt innocent prisoners will ever be released, the media might have a walk in the park but the government would use propaganda to cover up.
 

Steerpike

Registered Member
#3
The soldiers in Iraq are being pulled out. Now will happen to these soldiers? They will be stationed in Afghanistan, the next big terror threat to the States. I doubt innocent prisoners will ever be released, the media might have a walk in the park but the government would use propaganda to cover up.
The new American President, Barack Obama, has said that Guantanamo should be closed. What sort of people deliberately hold innocent people and also torture them?

Did you notice this bit?

"We need to put those people in a high-security prison like the one in Colorado, forget them and throw away the key," Wilkerson said. "We can't try them because we torture them and didn't keep an evidence trail."
Not only did the George W. Bush Administration torture people, but they also did not intend on giving them fair trials.
 
#4
This is a big "no shit" to me, it was clear from the start that some of the people Bush had detained were not terrorist or related to terrorism. I say hold a trial for them all and release the innocent ones.
 

Stab-o-Matic5000

Cutting Edge in Murder
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There was actually a guy from where I live who was an immigrant from Iraq who left in the mid-90s because of Saddam Hussein's leadership. He opened up a hookah lounge. After Saddam Hussein was taken out of power, he moved back to Iraq to live with his family and got a job working at the office of an American contractor. He calls in sick on the same day the office gets attacked by a bomb, and is taken in as a possible enemy combatant and sent to Guantanamo Bay. His innocence was proven, yet he still spent two years there before being released. This is a man who hated Saddam Hussein and was an upstanding American citizen for roughly a decade, and he's held without trial for two years with absolutely no evidence.

The problem is that the soldiers would round up anyone they thought might have been a terrorist or working with the terrorists and ship them to Guantanemo bay. Soldiers aren't police detectives, and there was barely any follow through at all to determine if any of these people were actually who the military thought they were.