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Games Metal Gear Solid 5: Sexism Controversy

Crouton

Ninja
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Every now and then something happens within the gaming industry that is so bad that I expect to hear that it was actually a joke or a prank all along, yet in the case of the latest MSG5 controversy, I’m still waiting…

This latest controversy revolves around Hideo Kojima, one of the full-time developers of the game. He recently released a series of tweets concerning one of the game's female characters Quiet. Who like her name, is a silent character, who seems to be around just for looks rather than anything else. Kojima admitted to ordering the designers to make her “more erotic” so that they will sell more figurines and so more girls will cosplay as her. They even went as far as to release the full 3D model of the character so that cosplayers could get a closer look and start working on their costumes, and here it is…


Hideo Kojima's recently released 3D model of Quiet

My biggest issue isn't even that she’s a mute character or that there’s a female in a game wearing a bikini. That can make sense within the context of the game. The issue here is that she is supposed to be a sniper. When you think of any type of person going into battle do you think of a bikini? No, you don’t, or at least you shouldn't. Sure making her a sniper puts her slightly more out of reach, but that still doesn't make her clothing practical in any way, and now we know why. Instead of designing her to be a practical character that makes sense in the context of the game, they have actually admitted to make her an erotic sex symbol purely for the fact that they want to sell more figures and have more girls cosplay as her. The men of this game sure as hell aren't wearing nothing but underwear.

Also, it should be noted that encouraging girls to cosplay in such a manner is worrying in itself. When people cosplay they do it to go to conventions, and lately there has been disturbing stories coming out of conventions regarding peoples approach to women. There have been reports of girls getting groped by security guards, people taking inappropriate photos, men giving women their business cards in their cleavage, men assuming girls are booth babes just based on their costumes just to name a few. It’s getting scary out there for female cosplayers, and now this creepy old Japanese guy is trying to encourage them to wear a costume where the whole top half of their body is covered by about 4% clothing.

Oh, and an example of one of the series of tweets he released about this subject?


Tasteful.

We are in a time when more and more girls are fighting to be treated equally in the world of video games, not just in the industry itself but in the representation of their own gender within games. So stories like this are shocking. There has been a great rise in well-rounded, well-written female characters within games in the last 5 years. So the industry is always improving on this topic. It’s just sad to see some are still making women silent sex objects for purely creepy reasons, rather than making characters to enhance the game or even fit into the context.
 
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Hilander

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They just wanted a sexy half dressed woman so more men would want to buy that game. I see it as demeaning to women, no sniper would dress like that, maybe a hooker.

What a thing to teach a young woman growing up.
 

Smelnick

Creeping On You
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I won't lie, I definitely enjoy it when a scantily clad woman character shows up in a video game I'm playing. What red blooded, hetero guy doesn't? I wouldn't say that it makes me buy the game though.

For me, it's akin to strip clubs. Guys go to strip clubs, and girls strip for them. MGS's prime target market is hormonal teen and young adult males. Scantily clad woman guarantee a high rate of sales among that target market. Whether it's sexist or not, the creators of the game are more than welcome to target whatever market they like. The creators of the game merely create the game. Its not their fault that younger girls feel the need to emulate such a character. I agree that its not great for the human populace to be trending this way, but until scantily clad woman are not longer a sure bet when it comes to sales, video games will have them.

Frankly though, I hope they never stop putting voracious woman in video games either. They can create video games with strong female characters that WOULD make great role models. However, hetero males will always be wired to receive pleasure from the visual stimulus of the partially covered female form. Girls get sexual pleasure through touch and emotion. Guys get it through what they see and imagine. It doesn't make us pigs.
 

Crouton

Ninja
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I see your point Smel, and I understand that they do this to sell more sometimes, but the fact that this guy is tweeting this and saying that he deliberately made her as erotic as possible just because he wants young girls to cosplay as her is frankly quite disturbing. He's really got that creepy perverted old man thing going on. When the developer themselves actually admits this then it's pretty scary.
 

Smelnick

Creeping On You
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Yes, on that point I agree. Its one thing to sex up the girls to sell the game to guys. It's another to have the specific goal in mind of encouraging girls to cosplay her, so he has something to ogle at the gaming conventions. I'm not really sure if there's much that can be done about that, other than counter-encouragement for gals to NOT cosplay. However, and I don't mean this as a fault on girls, but there are some girls, and I even know some, who would cosplay as such a character and not even be ashamed. It's their choice I suppose, but if they choose to do that, they can't really complain if they get ogled.
 

AnitaKnapp

It's not me, it's you.
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It is gross, but I can't bring myself to care all that much. I can see both arguments, but I don't really agree with either of them. When a game is over sexed like that, I just am not interested in buying it and playing it myself...so I won't. However, dudes that like to jerk off to video games can get it for their spank bank. Although porn is probably cheaper.
 

dDave

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I see your point Smel, and I understand that they do this to sell more sometimes, but the fact that this guy is tweeting this and saying that he deliberately made her as erotic as possible just because he wants young girls to cosplay as her is frankly quite disturbing. He's really got that creepy perverted old man thing going on. When the developer themselves actually admits this then it's pretty scary.
I agree. It's disturbing, very disturbing. I don't agree with sexing up games and I think that when you're willing to tweet like that you have truly become a sick individual.

Yeah, so? It seems like people will get worked up over anything these days.

If they are taking fashion tips from a video game, there's a good chance it's already too late for them. Haha.
It's not just getting worked up for no reason. There's a very legitimate point to be made here I think.

It's also not just about fashion tips. It's about the fact that games are being sold to young men and it's being constantly communicated to them that women are objects.
 

Konshentz

Konshentz
I won't lie, that outfit looks super stealthy.

And wait, dudes jerk off to video games? Yikes.
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It's not just getting worked up for no reason. There's a very legitimate point to be made here I think.
Meh, maybe for ya'll.

It's also not just about fashion tips. It's about the fact that games are being sold to young men and it's being constantly communicated to them that women are objects.
If they were raised right, it wouldn't matter.
 
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