The current thread in this section is about Arizona's current attempt to curb illegal immigration but I figured I'd start a general one because it's an issue that continues to baffle me. Simply put: Why is it even arguable that a person who breaks international law shouldn't be deported or detained and eventually returned to their country of origin? It's a law. Enter the country legally. Why is that so hard to grasp? Oh, the poor guy has no money in his country and he's got a wife and kids and he has a cute little dog named Loco and his mother is sick and, and, and . . and please give me a goddamn break. We've all got problems, especially within our own country. I understand the impulse to help those less fortunate but how about we start with the people in our own country? Nothing good comes from illegal immigration outside of that immigrants' family. Sure, that may be enough for some of you but also realize that a job he/she takes is one that doesn't go to an American. Yes, some of us are lazy slobs that won't take "lower jobs" but there are plenty of people that still take what they can get and if they can't get a decent job because Juan just hopped the border and will do a day's work for a buck fifty, that's a serious problem. Legal immigration = awesome. We want you here, we want you to make a better life, we really do. Some people in this country are just flat out racist and don't want certain people to continue to grow in numbers. Most of us are not like them, we just want legal immigration and it's flat out confusing to see how so many people can defend all these criminals (that's what they are whether you want to believe it or not, they did willingly break federal law, there's no dancing around it) just because of a few sob stories. It would be spectacular if we could do something for them but we do have to watch after our own first. It's not selfish, it's how you run a successful country. Keep your own people protected and effective and then worry more about the rest because it's just common logic: If you don't have a country full of working, happy people then how the hell can you help anyone else? To me, legal immigration needs just as much reform as illegal immigration. It can be a pain in the ass to get here and I know that. However that doesn't make illegal immigration okay. I just don't know why it's such an issue and I've yet to hear a real convincing argument otherwise. Thoughts?