Lets discuss about Lefty Grove. Some people say he's the greatest pitcher to ever play the game and some other people say that he's not even in there top 5 list. Lefty had 300 wins in his career and only 141 losses. His ERA was pretty high at 3.06 His two best years came 1930 and 1931 which he posted 28-5 and 31-4 records. He didn't pitch as well with the Red Sox like he did with the Atheletics, but tend to forget that the Red Sox were a pretty bad team during his tenure there. He won the MVP in 1931 he won eight ERA titles, one of the most amazing things he's done in my opinion is that he struck out the side on nine pitches twice. So where do you guys rank him on your pitchers greatest list? What else can you tell me about Lefty Grove?