This was getting a bit off track in the Obama thread: How is using government regulation to maximize economic efficiency more in line with "using the state to deliver people from harm" than using government regulation to redistribute wealth to the poor? And thanks to McCain the manual, and its definition of torture, was given force of law for US interrogators. The "intellectual" acrobatics necessary to transform this into a defeat for human rights is truely astounding. Where's the lie? I don't doubt that he's pleased to have Hagee's endorsement. You're the one putting words (which go against the vast majority of his record) in McCain's mouth by suggesting that he and Hagee are in lockstep on every single matter of policy. Maybe when someone serious asks if he thinks Congress or the President should have the power to declare war he'll feel the need to do so. I suppose he should also explain what he considers a tree... There are slightly more important issues than a bad joke made by a candidate. According to McCain, "Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed." How exactly does that translate into an American superpower with unlimited authority vested personally in the President? It's a 127-page PDF, and has yet to make it out of committee, so no, I haven't read the entire bill. However, every article on it agrees that it would reduce emissions by 60% through a cap-and-trade system. No one ever voted on the bill - the Committee on Environment and Public Works never even voted on whether or not to advance it to the full Senate for debate. It's not a government service. A cap-and-trade system is a government restriction. Nor would the trade of those credits be directly taxed. Revenue would be generated by auctioning them. Your ability to infer a completely unrelated, and often opposite, conclusion is remarkable. How you manage to equate auctioning permits to pollute with the creation of an agency that measures companies' profits is rather astounding. Or it could be the EPA... Now there's an oxymoron.