Is Porn Degrading?

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Circle_One, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. Circle_One

    Circle_One Guest

    I was having a debate on another forum about whether or not Porn was degrading to women.

    I have my own thoughts, but I'll get into them after I hear your ideas.

    So, do you feel Porn is degrading to women?

    If you do, why?

    If not, why not?
     

  2. breathilizer

    breathilizer Resident Ass-Kisser

    I think degrading women is degrading to women. Tautological, I know, but the point is that porn itself is not degrading to women. If the porn shows a woman being degraded, then the acts depicted should be considered degrading.

    The women know what they are doing, know what the material will be used for, and participate consentually. To pretend that they are making an immoral decision is more degrading than anything else. It's their life, they can do what they want.

    Saying porn is degrading to women is like saying Lifetime is degrading to men.
     
  3. IntheNet

    IntheNet Guest

    I personally feel that it is degrading to women and men. By its very nature, pornography, defined* as (pictures, video, etc.) media intended to arouse sexual desire, demeans its subjects (both women and men) and encourages immoral activity.

    As pornography studies have shown, viewing pornography is harmful to the viewer and society:

    "One of the most common psychological problems is a deviant attitude towards intimate relationships such as perceptions of sexual dominance, submissiveness, sex role stereotyping or viewing persons as sexual objects. Behavioral problems include fetishes and excessive or ritualistic masturbation. Sexual aggressiveness, sexually hostile and violent behaviours are social problems as well as individual problems that are linked to pornography."

    Pornography is tolerated due to its vast income potential, which blinds users to its inherent danger, and to its capacity to degrade both women and men.

    *Webster's New World Dictionary (1990)
     
  4. breathilizer

    breathilizer Resident Ass-Kisser

    And how would this staement change if the "activities" were not considered immoral, and the subjects ddid not feel like they have been demeaned?


    Your source presupposes that fetishes and "ritualistic masturbation" are problems. Something tells me the study was biased.

    Religion is tolerated due to its vast income potential,
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    which blinds users to its inherent danger,
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    and its capacity to degrade both men
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    and women.
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  5. Mecha

    Mecha Guest

    Couldn't have anything to do with the fact almost (everyone not with access to a desired person) masturbates, which is aided greatly by porn.

    Even then "linked" is a very plastic word to use. People who have violent sexually related behavior like violent pornography? Does that surprise anyone? Irrelevant to the matter at hand.

    For the rest, Breathilizer ^ 2.

    ~Mecha
     
  6. Circle_One

    Circle_One Guest

    I somewhat agree with this.

    I was ganged up on in the thread in the other forum for being one of the only ones (and the ONLY female) who said that they didn't consider porn degrading to women.

    Ok, so I said I somewhat agree with what you said. Here's why:

    How is it that a porn depicting degradation is considered degrading, while a porn not involving degrading acts isn't degrading?

    In both instances, the woman knows what she's getting into. She knows the scene she'll be playing and she chooses to play it. She makes an informed choice to still do it, no matter what it depicts. She doesn't have to.

    I get that certain things are degrading, but I still don't think those things are degrading to the women themselves, because still, they choose to do it.

    Does that make sense?

    I have a hard time believing that this, by any means, constitutes the majority of porn watchers.

    There are extremists in everything, so of course there will be those who take their porn watching habits to extremes, but that does not denote that everyone who watches porn will end up this way. It does not even mean that the majority of those who watch porn will end up this way.

    There are studies that show a correlation between certain children who play violent video games and violent behavior, but not all children end up violent simply because they play violent video games.

    And another thing:

    I never realized that fetishes were considered "Behavioral problems". I find this statement ludacris.
     
  7. breathilizer

    breathilizer Resident Ass-Kisser

    Perfect sense. Unfortunately, I think you're forgetting about pornogrpahy that is obviously degrading, like voyeur/hidden cams, rape vids, etc.

    In other words, non-consentual participation.
     
  8. IntheNet

    IntheNet Guest

    IntheNet makes a false comparison and everyone jumps all over him immediately... let's see how long the Mods and everyone else takes to fault breathilizer for falsely comparing the Vatican to 09/11/01 terrorism...

    (EVEN THOUGH RELIGION HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THIS DISCUSSION BUT BREATHILIZER BRINGS IT IN ANYWAY TO HIJACK THREAD DISCUSSION ON PORNOGRAPHY)...

    ...clock is ticking...

    Also note that my opinion on pornography was backed up with references to studies and was couched as my opinion in response to Circle One's question on opinions....

    EDIT: Stop whining out loud, whether you hate us or not, the best thing to do is contact a mod if you find something to be wrong. Something like this just lowers your credibility. Next time, PM me.

    - Merc
     
  9. Circle_One

    Circle_One Guest

    Good call, my friend. I completely agree. Porn of this type, ie, non-consensual, is absolutely degrading and immoral, as are those types along the lines of kiddie porn.

    You're right, I didn't exactly forget about those types of porn, but I was merely strictly speaking of consensual porn with regards to immorality and degradation, thank you for bringing that up.
     
  10. breathilizer

    breathilizer Resident Ass-Kisser

    IntheNet,

    Yeah and we responded to those references. They are clearly biased studies.

    My comparison between pornography and religion is valid in that we tolerate certain aspects of society in order to not infringe on personal freedoms.

    If you want to talk about comments ahving nothing to do with this discussion, we'll take one look at your first post in the thread. You said 3 times that it is degrading to women, and DID NOT SUPPORT your assertion. The quote from the study you cited had nothing to do with degrading women.

    But let's not derail this thread. Is porn degrading to women. You say yes. I ask, "how?"
     

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