Firstly, let me state that this IS a mature discussion thread. Please keep it on topic. Now, I have had people say to me, when I've refused a drink, that I should "have a bit of fun". I always reply back that "I am having fun". This always confuses them, as I'm stone-cold sober. I do drink on special occasions, or when the mood takes me (which isn't very often, but happened pretty recently), but for the most part I don't drink at all. The reason is that I can actually find fun things to do without getting extremely drunk. In fact I tend to have more fun when sober than drunk. Also, on the rare occasions that I have a night out, I don't get completely out of it because I like to remember my nights. I don't want to wake up with unexplained bruises, a sore head, and thinking "what the hell happened last night?" I have friends who say things like "It must have been a good night, because I can't remember it!", how do they know this? I haven't mentioned drugs, simply because I have never tried. Nor am I ever likely to. It's just a personal thing: I don't want to kill myself. No matter what people say, drugs DO kill you, albeit very slowly. For this reason alone I do not consider Marijuana to be a drug. In fact it would probably be the only so-called "illegal drug" I would try. I know not everybody who takes drugs wants to truly kill theirself, but accidents do happen. So little is known about drugs that nobody really knows how they're going to react until they take them. By that time, it is possible that it is too late to do anything about it. Well there you have it: my two cents on the subject. I'd like to thank Scissorhands and SpicyMeatball for their discussion in sub-talk, which inspired this thread. What do you think? Is it possible to have more fun sober than wasted?