Iraq War and who pays the highest price...

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Flyhigher, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. Flyhigher

    Flyhigher Guest

    We know that soldiers from rural America are dying at higher rates than those from urban America, strikingly higher... The latest figures have it at 60 percent higher...

    The dearth of opportunity in rural areas leads a lot of young people to the military...

  2. tipsycatlover

    tipsycatlover Registered Member

    Rural America has traditionally been more patriotic than urban America. You are more likely to find loyalty in rural America whether to family, God or country.
  3. Flyhigher

    Flyhigher Guest

    Maybe you are on to something, but I can't say that I agree...
  4. Kazmarov

    Kazmarov For a Free Scotland

    I would love to see you prove that.


    High poverty and unemployment=disproportionate representation in the armed forces. Very, very simple correlation, as opposed to the ludicrous proposition of Tipsy. They both work, but one is based on fact...the other is not.
  5. Flyhigher

    Flyhigher Guest

    I do agree that rural area youth often join the military due to boredom... This is a fact, and I don't think this is the best case scenario for our new soldiers...
  6. Kazmarov

    Kazmarov For a Free Scotland

    I never said boredom. It's out of necessity if you want funding for education or simply to not be in poverty.
  7. tipsycatlover

    tipsycatlover Registered Member

    There are facts, then there are conclusions drawn from facts. You stated a number of facts from which you draw your own conclusions. Then present that conclusion as a fact of its own. It sounds like, "It's obvious! Everyone knows it." Not so. When those rubes get to speak, hardly ever do they say it's for the money. They are raised to feel a sense of duty, something urban youth does not get. Boys in rural America are more likely to join the military because that's what their Dad did. They join the Navy if Dad was a Sailor and the Army if Dad was a soldier. Contrasted with urban young men who have a high probability of not knowing who their father is.
  8. Corona

    Corona Registered Member

    There are facts, there are conclusions drawn from facts, and then there are unproved statements.

    This is the latter.
  9. tipsycatlover

    tipsycatlover Registered Member

    My mistake, it's having the girlfriends on welfare that make the big bucks so guys don't have to join the military to get an education and work. Perhaps a trip through rural America should be in your future before you make your final decision.
  10. joshua41

    joshua41 Guest

    Your explanation is probably true, but have you considered that if these people didn't want to join the army they could move to a city to find a better paying job? Leaving the rural area is just as big of a change as joining an army. Therefore, if they weren't interested in joining the army in such high numbers they could just move to the city.

    In this sense, drawing the conclusion that rural america is less patriotic than you previously considered is flawed. If anything, looking at it from this angle makes it true that rural america is more patriotic than urban america. I don't think it's decline is necessarily relevant to enrollment in the armed forces. I mean- you can draw that conclusion but I don't see why you can't consider what I just explained to be just as valid.

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