Increased Internet monitoring on Active Soldier Families?

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by gmanlink, Nov 2, 2008.

  1. gmanlink

    gmanlink Registered Member

    I was recently informed that families who has some relative in the army are usually monitored more often and stricter. Is this true?

  2. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    The NSA monitors millions of internet users. The chances of them singling a single person out like this is slim to nil. They have bigger fish to fry... does it happen? Yes. Do they do much about it? Not really.

    Name one time when you or anyone you know had their civil rights violated because of this? They'd still need a warrant to prove anything in court otherwise it would get thrown out.
  3. Tainted_Glory

    Tainted_Glory Not a Scientologist

    Even if your civil rights probably won't get violated, do you still want people (Even anyone in the government) to know what you do on the computer? Not saying I or anyone else does this, but do you really want them to find out you look at midget porn or something? Knowing that some asshole with the.... What was it? NSA? Is laughing his ass off at my internet history.

    Just to clear some things up, those were examples in there, I do not actually look at midget porn. But that horse porn, oh boy!
    No, srsly, no inter-species erotica for me.
  4. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    Not saying I'm a huge fan of it, I really don't like government snooping into my life. But I also understand I can do whatever I want on the internet, and unless they have a warrant they can't do crap.

    Much as if I were at home smoking pot and cops thought I was, they can come to my door and check the exterior of my house but can't come in without a warrant. If they did and arrested me it would get thrown out in court because they had no warrant to enter my property.

    The internet is no different.
  5. Wade8813

    Wade8813 Registered Member

    I've heard of soldiers being monitored to make sure they aren't sending out classified information, especially when deployed to a war zone. For instance, when I thought I was going to be deployed, we were told what city we were going to in Iraq, but we had to keep it quiet, because if the wrong people found out, there could be a nasty welcoming committee upon arrival. And there are plenty of other things that could put soldier's lives at risk.

    So I'm fairly sure they monitor soldiers' outgoing communications. I'm not sure if they do anything about family members saying things. And it probably doesn't involve a court date, unless they have reason to suspect that you're giving out a lot more information than you'd expect a normal family member to be spreading around.

    And at least in the case of the soldiers themselves, I'd guess they have all of the necessary legal stuff in place, so they can act as needed.
  6. gmanlink

    gmanlink Registered Member

    Oh and there is the fact that the bill of rights doesn't apply to an active solider. That's what my Former-marines Civics teacher told me. Recruits have to memorize this huge fat book...
    well, if they don't really care about what soldier's families do on the internet, then I'm fine. My dad is in Texas.. so they probably wouldn't monitor my family as much.
  7. Wade8813

    Wade8813 Registered Member

    I don't know about the Marines, but I'm in the Army, and I never had to memorize any fat book. I'm fairly confident that none of the branches do.

    The statement that the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to military is somewhat inaccurate.

    I believe there are slightly more restrictions on the first amendment while in uniform, but they're minimal. I'm fairly sure the 2nd and 3rd amendments are the same for soldiers and civilians.

    The 4th amendment, I'm not sure about.

    The 5th, 6th, and 7th amendments? Soldiers are definitely guaranteed due process, the right to counsel, and trial by jury.

    For the 8th amendment, I don't think the military has a bail system, so you don't have any excessive bail. All possible punishments for crimes are spelled out in the UCMJ, and are not cruel or unusual.

    The 9th and 10th amendments apply to military people as much as anyone else.

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