How do you pick who to vote for?

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by ysabel, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. ysabel

    ysabel /ˈɪzəˌbɛl/ pink 5

    This is for everyone of voting age in their country.

    1. Do you go by political party affiliations?

    2. Are there specific issues that are important to you and that weigh more if a candidate shares your view on that issue? If yes, specify key issues.

    3. If the candidate you like is sure to lose, do you still bother to vote?

    4. If you are undecided, do you "pick the lesser evil", flip a coin, or just abstain?

    5. If you've voted in the past, have you ever regretted your choice?



    On the side: I just wanted to share this story/joke about a senator who was asked to choose between hell and heaven. It has a relation to politics. I'm putting a spoiler tag so those who don't want to read it won't have to bother scrolling through it.

    While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

    St. Peter: Welcome to heaven. :hi: Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.

    Senator: No problem, just let me in.

    St. Peter: Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.

    Senator: Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven. :nod:

    St. Peter: I'm sorry, but we have our rules.

    And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

    Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
    rises...

    The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St Peter is waiting for him. Now it's time to visit heaven. So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

    St. Peter: Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.

    Senator (reflects for a minute :shifteyes:): Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.

    So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder.

    Senator: I don't understand. Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? :confused:

    The devil looks at him, smiles....

    Devil: Yesterday, we were campaigning...... Today, you voted. :mischievous:
     

  2. kiwi

    kiwi The Original Kiwi

    Unfortunately with this election, (just the presidential part) I'm not voting for someone, I'm simply voting against who I don't want to get it.
     
  3. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    I always vote for the party/candidate with the closest policy towards my own ideology for how I'd like to see the county/country run. If they fit the bill they get my vote.

    I would vote for any party if they swung my way with the majority of issues. I have yet to be undecided or felt the need to abstain from a vote, if I were to feel the need I would be either very concerned or possibly delighted ... the state of affairs would be dire or perfect.

    I don't think I could vote with the enemies enemy is my friend attitude, it just does not seem right for me. I vote for who I want to win not who I want to lose. I'd fear it is non-progressive.

    I've never regretted voting but have regretted the conclusion on all occasions:cry:...never once has my candidate won directly.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2008
  4. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    Great joke!

    I live by the South Park ideology: Your decision will always be between a giant douche and a turd sandwhich, meaning your choices will usually suck. Face it, people who make it to the elections are simply those who have sucked enough dick and taken enough money from you to weasel their way upwards. I guarantee you the best candidates are the ones that never run. So I choose the lesser of two evils.
     
  5. ysabel

    ysabel /ˈɪzəˌbɛl/ pink 5

    1. No
    2. Social Security and Foreign Policy
    3. Yes
    4. In our last elections, I was never really for any of the two candidates that remained in the second round. I just picked the lesser evil.
    5. Not "yet". It was still the better choice than the other...
     
  6. Bananas

    Bananas Endangered Species

    I missed the specify bit.

    My key issues include; advancing healthcare & education, economic prosperity, social equality and decentralisation.
     
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  7. Sim

    Sim Registered Member

    That too, but not exclusively. I used to work in the Green Party's youth group a while ago and feel close to that party. So it's usually the first choice. But I have sometimes voted for the center-left SPD, when I disagreed with some of the Green stances in a particular election. I also considered voting for the libertarian FDP more than once, but have never decided to do so, so far.

    Most important for me are civil and minority rights. Environmental issues too. That's why I prefer the Green Party, but also have sympathies for SPD and FDP.

    Yep.

    But sometimes I vote for "tactic" reasons: When it's clear which party wants a coalition with with which other party, like SPD and Greens, I then voted for the weaker partner (the Greens), even when I preferred the stronger one, in order to balance the ticket.

    If I ever vote for the FDP, it would be most likely for tactical reasons: If they made a clear statement they would side with the SPD rather than with the CDU, that might significantly increase the chance of me voting for them.

    So far, I found myself in agreement with one of the parties enough to consider them more than just a "lesser evil". But I guess I'd also vote for the lesser evil, if necessary.

    Nope, never so far.
     
  8. ComicFitz

    ComicFitz Registered Member

    I flip a coin , so far I am 2 for 4, which is like 50 percent
     
  9. Kazmarov

    Kazmarov For a Free Scotland

    Issues, ethics, and details factor in, in roughly equal quantities. I do lean left, but I have been known to support centrists and moderate Republicans (Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, the Governator, Lincoln Chafee).
     
  10. MenInTights

    MenInTights not a plastic bag

    I have a basket of issues I care about and weigh the candidates stances compared to their influence on the issues.
    Beyond that, I want to know what their plan is to solve the problems of the day and what they've done in the past.


    1. Do you go by political party affiliations?
    **No, but I almost always vote Republican

    2. Are there specific issues that are important to you and that weigh more if a candidate shares your view on that issue? If yes, specify key issues.
    **abortion, energy security, fiscal responsibility, tax fairness

    3. If the candidate you like is sure to lose, do you still bother to vote?
    **hypothetically yes. In truth, I just didn't feel like getting out of bed to vote for Bob Dole

    4. If you are undecided, do you "pick the lesser evil", flip a coin, or just abstain?
    **it depends. I've used all 3 methods.

    5. If you've voted in the past, have you ever regretted your choice?
    **of course. My first Presidential vote was for Ross Perot. :shifteyes:
     

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