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Has The Act To Stop Racism Gone Too Far?

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Anonym0uz Bitch

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Kos4Evr said:
What do illegal workers do to the US economy? they don't pay taxes like te rest except sales tax, you can get 12 of them into a 2 bedroom apartment and most of the money is sent out of this country. This is not just hurting honest and hard working US citizens, it also hurts the US economy. It encorages illegal activity and hurts the people who live in the US that need those jobs.
Obviously you are to ignorant to understand that companies hire illegals because they work for cheaper, so if the government makes strict laws to force companies to pay illegals the same wages, then they lose all incentive to hire them, thus not bothering to hire them.
 

Kos4Evr

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How is that going to help? Are the companies going to admit they are hiring illegal imigrants? That kind of things shuts companies down for good. I heard about a company like that. They closed their doors for good a couple of years ago.
 
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Kos4Evr said:
How is that going to help? Are the companies going to admit they are hiring illegal imigrants? That kind of things shuts companies down for good. I heard about a company like that. They closed their doors for good a couple of years ago.
You know companies have taxes, finacial reports, etc. The government will eventually find out, my apartment complex got fined quite a few thousand dollars for hiring illegals, and that was after a few months of contruction. The government gets cheated out of taxes when it comes to illegals. How would a law like I mentioned shut companies down, it encourages them to hire legal citizens because they would be forced to pay the same wages to illegals.
 

Kos4Evr

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That is one way to look at it. Yeah it encourages companies to hire citizens, or does it? It tellsillegal immigrants that it is ok to come here and live illegally. That is not helping the problem but making it worse.
 
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Kos4Evr said:
That is one way to look at it. Yeah it encourages companies to hire citizens, or does it? It tellsillegal immigrants that it is ok to come here and live illegally. That is not helping the problem but making it worse.
No it does NOT! They came here because they know companies will hire them for dirt cheap, and they will work hard. THAT is why illegals come here, they know companies want hard workers for cheap. If they are forced to pay illegals the same wage, the illegals can still come over, but will have a HARD time finding a job. It really amazes me how you fail to see this.
 

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Piccilo, your idea is cool, but it won't stop people from hiring illegal immigrants off the books.
The immigrants would get hired off the books, and payed for the same cheap wages there getting paid now. If caught, corps. would get fined and/or suvierely punished + buisnesses are usually shut down for simular acts. There isn't any room to increase worker fees.
 
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Luc said:
Piccilo, your idea is cool, but it won't stop people from hiring illegal immigrants off the books.
The immigrants would get hired off the books, and payed for the same cheap wages there getting paid now. If caught, corps. would get fined and/or suvierely punished + buisnesses are usually shut down for simular acts. There isn't any room to increase worker fees.
That is why the law is there, they would have no incentive and get a bigger punishment should they try to hire illegals. The fact they'd lose all incentive anyway should be good enough, they risk enough as it is, but knowing that it is even more illegal, and knowing that the illegals know about the law for that matter, would mean no reason to hire them. Do you honestly think an illegal will ask for lower wages, when he knows its required by law for him to make the same wages?
 

merob

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In order for your system to work, you'd have to make it legal to hire illegal immigrants. Even so, corps would till target the immigrants willing to work for cheaper fees, taking the same risk they're taking now.
 
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Luc said:
In order for your system to work, you'd have to make it legal to hire illegal immigrants. Even so, corps would till target the immigrants willing to work for cheaper fees, taking the same risk they're taking now.
No, you are missing the point, it would be illegal to pay illegal immigrants anything under minimum wage, thus there is one incenive for the corporations, and then should they hire illegal immigrants the illegals will know they deserve as much money as the legal ones. If you are providing for your family, and know by law they have to pay you the same as others, would you not object? There goes another incentive right there, if a company hires a bunch of illegals, then can all basically form a union. I really do not see how you dont see this.
 

Kos4Evr

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Picollo, you are aware that most factories pay more than minimum wage? No, then making a company pay them a little more isn't going to help because they are still getting paid less than citizens. You are doing an admirable job defending your point, but sadly the point itself is flawed. You are making a law no one will follow because if you admit they are there you biz is shut down. And people have been screwing with books and getting away with it for a long time now. Some get caught but not all of them do.

You are making a law about people that are already breaking the law. Hence no one is going to follow it. You are ignoring the issue that Mexicans (as one example) will still risk death in the desert to get into this country no matter what laws prevent them from doing so. Your idea is doing absolutely nothing to solve the problem, just waste more resources trying to look like you are doing something about it that would be better spent doing something about it.

On the plus side, you would make a great politician. The do a great job of wasting resources and accomplishing nothing useful.

Piccolo said:
No, you are missing the point, it would be illegal to pay illegal immigrants anything under minimum wage, thus there is one incenive for the corporations, and then should they hire illegal immigrants the illegals will know they deserve as much money as the legal ones. If you are providing for your family, and know by law they have to pay you the same as others, would you not object? There goes another incentive right there, if a company hires a bunch of illegals, then can all basically form a union. I really do not see how you dont see this.
Good Lord! Now you want to make it legal to pay illegal immigrants? Listen to yourself for a moment. It doesn't matter what they get paid. It matters that they are here, taking jobs from people who live in this country, pay taxes and buy things that keeps the economy running, not how much they are getting paid.
 
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