Guns N Roses - chinese democracy


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Who has heard this? If you haven't they have it on there Myspace page, and it sounds awesome. Comes out tomorrow and I will be buying it when I get the chance.

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Finally! I heard it was going to be in November sometime, then I heard it got moved to December. Well, as long as it gets released I'm find wit it. Tomorrow of all days! I'll wait, check out YouTube and see if I like any of their songs. If I do, I'll purchase the CD.


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I am really excited for this CD which comes out tommorow, I don't believe I'll be buying it tommorow, but I'll purchase it in the next week or so. It's one of the most anticipated albums in a real long time. It was suppose to be release in 1993.


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Yes, you’re reading correct. Guns N Roses has finally released the long awaited album Chinese Democracy. It is true that the band physically isn’t the GNR that many of us came to know and love over the years, but the album picks up just where they left off 14-years ago.

The first thing that everyone needs to realize is that this album is not another Appetite for Destruction. Too many people are expecting that from them and the truth is that Appetite for Destruction is a landmark album that would be hard to duplicate even if the original line-up was still together. Chinese Democracy is much more along the lines of Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 in that the majority of the tracks are longer than 3 minutes and are a mixture of shredding guitars and orchestral sounds.

With that said lets get into the album itself shall we. It’s safe to say from the album that Axl’s vocals are just as solid as we remember them. He doesn’t struggle to hit notes out of his range. Yes you could argue that the vocals are clean due to post production, but you can say that about any album nowadays. And for those of you wondering whether or not GNR would be anything without Slash, wonder no more. The combination of Buckethead and Bumblefoot really brings it all together. The only problem is that they are both on a majority of the tracks and theirs is currently no way to tell who is who.

The album opens with the title track with a gradual start, much like Welcome to The Jungle did for Appetite for Destruction. It’s a strong opening track but it is only one of three Appetite-like tracks. For me the closest this album gets to Appetite is the track Scraped. This track is a bombardment of heavy guitars with solo’s that will completely reassure your faith in the current state of GNR.

As for the rest of the album, it leans more towards the Use Your Illusion albums using a mix of orchestral melodies with shredding guitars. Street of Dreams opens with a piano and will almost instantly have you thinking it’s a reminder of the epic November Rain as it smoothly joins piano and guitar solo’s together. Then there is Madagascar. This track is got to be the bastard child of The Beatles and Pink Floyd. Combing horns, violins and intense guitars along with an audio montage that just ties it all together makes this song stand out. Why its not getting more airplay is beyond me.

All in all, it was worth waiting fourteen years for this album. However if you’re a casual Guns N Roses fan who only knows Appetite for Destruction than this is not an album for you. But if you appreciate the Use Your Illusion albums or just enjoy a good album that showcases everything a band has going for them then go out and get yourself a copy of Chinese Democracy.
About time this album came out, Its pretty good and I'm not dissapointed with it one bit:)


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I'm hoping that what I'm about to say isn't misunderstood or taken as some kind of putdown, but this is not a Guns N Roses album, because this band is not Guns N Roses. The only member of Guns N Roses who's featured on this album is one Axl Rose and in another world this album is either under his name or another band name. The only reason why the name GNR is attached to it is because Axl wants a.) all the cash involved with royalties on every song ever written and produced and b.) He's just self serving like that.

Regardless, even though this album doesn't hold a candle to Appetite, Lies or either Use Your Illusion, this is still a damn good album, it stays true to an oldschool GNR sound while meshing in somewhat of a new feel and sound.


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Your point is well observed. Truth is Axl owns the name so no matter what the line-up is the name will be the same. It is a solid album, as i wrote in a review above.


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Thank you Turbonium. I went to the show at MSG all the way back in 02 (what was then the last show ever, but we all know how long that lasted) and the running gag we all had going was that it was "Axl Rose and his All Star Band" much like what Ringo Star has done post Beatles. And to be completely fair he had an ensemble of great musicians, Tommy Stinson is an incredibly underrated bassist, Buckethead was always an outstanding sessions guitarist, Brain's a great drummer, Robin Frink was an intriguing find.

And in truth, they're were incredible that night and it was an unforgettable performance.

But lets face it, Guns N Roses is Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, Steven or Matt (and I suppose to some extent Dizzy, maybe Gilby Clarke).

The album is great, won't ever trump the previous albums but for anyone who doubted this album (and there are still plenty out there), they're in for a surprise.
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Agreed about the original GNR. Although Bumblefoot is the current guitarist and man is he scary good. I think radio needs to play more than the first 3 tracks on the album. i think Riads N' The Bedouins or Scraped could be the songs to put the album over.