Gun ban lifted in Federal Parks

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by pro2A, May 23, 2009.

  1. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    There has been a big stink about this lately. A short history of this was back before Bush left office he lifted a ban on a Federal Park regulation prohibiting concealed carry in Federal Parks. The Brady campaign filed an injunction in court and stalled the rule change. It's been stalled until now when it was added to another bill.

    This amendment was added on to the credit card bill by Republicans in the house, and voted on by 105 Democrats as well. It passed in the Senate with another 27 Democratic votes as well.

    This is a huge win for gun owners. Now we can legally carry concealed or open firearms in Federal parks for protection... just like we can anywhere else.

    YouTube - Guns in the Parks

    News article: Link to source.


  2. icegoat63

    icegoat63 Son of Liberty V.I.P. Lifetime

    I know the first Argument here is going to be "Well Why Do you need Guns in a National Park!!!"

    Allow me to explain, you dont. However, that doesnt mean you intend to have them in there.

    Heres my experience. My Dad as alot of you know has a side career as a California Licensed Guide Hunter. His normal Stamping grounds is around the Sierra National Forest (which is not a national park, its 100% legal to carry guns and hunt there). However, his method of hunting requires alot of driving and following dogs. It just so happens that Sierra Nat'l Park borders both Sequioa National (protected) and Yosemite Nat'l (protected). Since these parks are bordering, there are Roads that spider in and out of them as they swerve around mountains. Pretty simple, one minute you can be in Sierra Nat'l... the next you're in Yosemite.

    What has happened to my dad in the past is, Park Rangers like to sit and patrol those back roads, and because my Dads "hunting rig" is a dead giveaway that he isnt spending his time shooting pictures of the Park... chances are he's packing heat :hah: And he has been profiled, pulled over, and cited many many times in the past. Resulting in I'd guesstimate close to 1200 dollars worth of fines in the last few years.

    His intent is as far as can be from "hunting in the park", but alas, because these Rangers have power and have a rule, they over enforce it and citizens like him have had to pay for it.

    This lifted ban will be a sigh of relief for people like him.
  3. ysabel

    ysabel /ˈɪzəˌbɛl/ pink 5

    I remember hearing about the ban before (it's probably your thread too, haha). From what I recall the area isn't even monitored that a ban only deters law abiding and responsible gun owners from carrying. In other words, it was a useless ban.
  4. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    Most bans usually are useless.

    This has nothing to do with danger or crime. I know national parks are statistically safe (nothing is fail proof tho). The point here I believe is removing excess red tape that is not needed. Every time I have to pass thru a state or federal park in order to be in the law I have to get out, unload my gun, lock it in the safe and put it in the trunk, drive thru then repeat those steps in reverse to rearm myself on the other side. Tell me how that deters crime? I'm yet to have someone explain to me how making me disarm will prevent a criminal from committing a crime.

    It's quite simply a pain in the ass, and the Brady Campaign knows it is. Their philosophy is that if it's "too much of a hassle" people will just stop bringing their guns places. That's the underlying issue here, removing that hassle so law abiding people can still arm themselves up to and in the federal park. Right now if I was to go to a federal park I'd have to leave my gun at home, rendering me defenseless the whole way there. This law removed that requirement and takes it one step better, I can carry in the park as well.
    Last edited: May 25, 2009

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