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Firefighters refuse service over $75 fee

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
There's an easy way to handle this in the private sector. Everyone signs a contract stating they will either pay $75/yr or $30,000 on an as needed basis. Things always seem to fail when they are semi-privatized.
 

Merc

Problematic Shitlord
V.I.P.
There's an easy way to handle this in the private sector. Everyone signs a contract stating they will either pay $75/yr or $30,000 on an as needed basis. Things always seem to fail when they are semi-privatized.
Or, you know, people could pay their taxes.

:-/

I just want to know why they don't have county-wide fire protection services. I want to know why they charge the fees to be honest.
 

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
Or, you know, people could pay their taxes.

:-/

I just want to know why they don't have county-wide fire protection services. I want to know why they charge the fees to be honest.
I think they expanded their service to include the remote areas of the county and they did this rather than raise taxes to pay for it. What I was getting at is if we're going to privatize stuff it needs to be fully privatized or else stuff like this happens. If everyone agrees that it should be fully government, then that's what it should be and we can pay more taxes to support it. One or the other - the middle ground is the worse of both. Freddie Mac/Fanny Mae for example.
 

icegoat63

Son of Liberty
V.I.P.
You guys need more socialism. Up here everyone gets fire service. But of course, the lineups are long.
Holy Shit, That may quite literally be the funniest thing I've ever heard you say.

Good job.

As far as the OP goes... I dunno what to even say. I mean I thought Firemen and Police were obligated by their duties to help anyone in need of help regardless of economic status or situation.
 

Mirage

Secret Agent
Staff member
V.I.P.
This is why we pay taxes, people.
The people in this area don't pay taxes for firefighting services though. They are given the option to pay $75 a year for "fire insurance" basically, and that's what the fire department uses to operate on in that area.

It's unfortunate that the house was allowed to burn to the ground, but the alternative is that everybody realizes that they can have fires put out without paying the $75 a year. Well now the fire department doesn't have enough money to continue operating.

I can understand why the fire department used this house to make an example. They need that money to operate and they can't set a precedent that they will essentially work for free for people who don't pay. It would ruin the system they have in place.

A mandatory $75 a year fire fighting tax would be ideal, but perhaps the county or city doesn't have the constitutional authority to mandate a specific tax like that.
 

MAgnum9987

Do What Thou Wilt
That is completely wrong. Fire fighters should have an obligation to do what they can to do what they are supposed to do- fight fires (doh!).

And if you don't pay a fee? You pay them back after. No one deserves to watch their house burn to the ground. 75 dollars can easily be paid back with a plan in mind.
 
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Merc

Problematic Shitlord
V.I.P.
I think they expanded their service to include the remote areas of the county and they did this rather than raise taxes to pay for it. What I was getting at is if we're going to privatize stuff it needs to be fully privatized or else stuff like this happens. If everyone agrees that it should be fully government, then that's what it should be and we can pay more taxes to support it. One or the other - the middle ground is the worse of both. Freddie Mac/Fanny Mae for example.
I trust big business even less than I trust my government. I don't know who in their right mind would want something as vital as essentially, protection of your own life, to be privatized. I think this is just a case where the whole county needs protection.
 
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