Egypt teacher tried over beating

Should teachers be allowed to hit Pupils?

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DinoFlintstone

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An Egyptian mathematics teacher has appeared in court in Alexandria accused of beating an 11-year-old to death because he did not do his homework.

After using a ruler, Haitham Nabeel Abdelhamid, 23, allegedly took the boy outside the classroom and hit him violently in his stomach.

Islam Amr Badr fainted and later died in hospital of heart failure.

Observers say the case has been seen as a shocking reminder of the failings of Egypt's state education system.

The incident, at Saad Othman Primary School on the outskirts of Alexandria in October, caused national outrage.

'Discipline'

Islam Amr Badr's classmates gave evidence on Saturday, describing how the boy was hit by his teacher during a maths lesson.

They said he was being punished for not having done his homework.

The court also heard from medical staff who examined the boy in hospital and a doctor who carried out a post-mortem examination.

The boy had two broken ribs, and stomach injuries which caused a sharp drop in his blood pressure and heart failure, says the BBC's Yolande Knell in Cairo.

Mr Abdul Hamid has said he only meant to discipline his pupil and did not mean to hurt anyone.

Reform 'on way'

The Egyptian education minister is expected to be called as a witness during the trial, which has been adjourned to Sunday.

Islam's father, Amr Badr Ibrahim, says others should stand trial with his son's teacher.

"The problem is the teaching and the teachers because they cannot find good teachers," he said.

"The minister of education should be the first person to be accused - how can he agree to let such a young man teach children?"

In the state education system, young, inexperienced and under-resourced teachers often struggle to control classes of 60 to 100 children.

The Egyptian government says it is bringing in education reforms - including new teacher testing.

It is also trying to tackle violence in schools and has issued new statements on the prohibition of corporal punishment.
I've said it many times before, if a law came to pass where hitting Children in the U.K in School was reintroduced, and my Son was hit, I'd come into the School and hit the teacher 10x's as hard. I would make my feelings clear before-hand of course.
 
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Gut punch = too excessive.
Spanking / Paddling = fine.

I wouldn't mind if a few of these kids got paddled nowadays. If the parents don't do it, surly the teachers should.
 

Merc

Certified Shitlord
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Search first Dino:

http://www.generalforum.com/other-news-discussions/egyptian-teahcer-killed-pupil-51654.html

But since this thread is getting the replies, I shall respond here.

No. No teachers should be allowed to hit students, period. Why? Because they're not their parents. Kids don't need to be beaten into fearing authority so young. If their parents feel it's necessary, let them do it. Teachers? No. Not even paddling. A lot of parents can't handle their own children, what makes you think strangers would do a better job?
 

Xeilo

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#5
No, teachers should not have the power to hit pupils in anyway, it is not there right to and should be left for parents to do if anything.
 

Bliss

Sally Twit
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No. No teachers should be allowed to hit students, period. Why? Because they're not their parents. Kids don't need to be beaten into fearing authority so young. If their parents feel it's necessary, let them do it. Teachers? No. Not even paddling. A lot of parents can't handle their own children, what makes you think strangers would do a better job?
Cons hit the nail on the head. NOBODY apart from the child's parents should be allowed to spank them. I find it absolutely disgusting that people think it's alright "so long as it's mild". If you had a child would you be alright with someone hitting them if they hadn't done their homework? People here actually think children should be punished that way for something so trivial? Wow.
 

Eilt_Druin

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A lot of parents can't handle their own children, what makes you think strangers would do a better job?
A lot of parents don't even care enough to try to handle them. If the parents don't do it and the teachers don't do it, who is going to teach the children?
If you had a child would you be alright with someone hitting them if they hadn't done their homework? People here actually think children should be punished that way for something so trivial? Wow.
I didn't see anyone say that. For something as trivial as not doing homework once? No, even a paddling is excessive for that. For strong offenses, I think paddling is okay. Punching a kid is across the line no matter what, though.
 

T-Menace

Registered Member
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Unfortuately parents these days are scared to hit their kids incase they get arrested, sued or social services take the kids away.

Think you also have to seperate beating a child and using loving discipline. The idea of discipling a child is done with a view to them growing up into decent human beings and not the scum i'm sure we have all seen knocking round the streets
 

Bliss

Sally Twit
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I didn't see anyone say that. For something as trivial as not doing homework once? No, even a paddling is excessive for that. For strong offenses, I think paddling is okay. Punching a kid is across the line no matter what, though.
You and Vilk both said paddling was acceptable. A paddling is excessive no matter what. No child should be spanked by a teacher. It is a sick form of punishment and spanking should be done by the parents only if they wish to, not by anybody else.
 
#10
If I was a parent I'd be pretty pissed if I heard my kid's teacher punched him in the face. Of course if my kid was doing something super stupid like throwing knives, that's something different.