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Donald Trump Endorses John McCain

Mirage

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Donald Trump HATES George Bush. He thinks he was a complete disaster for the economy and has not been shy about his opinion.

First video is one of Trump basically saying that he 100% hates Bush:

YouTube - Donald Trump attacks the Bush Administration!

He gets credit for not just assuming that McCain is the "Next Bush". He's reviewed both candidates plans for the economy and he says that he thinks Obama's plan will fail miserably.

YouTube - Trump Endorses McCain

And a news article:

Trump down on economy, up on McCain - CNN.com

Trump is one of the smartest businessmen alive right now. His opinion on the economy is big news and shouldn't just be passed off as some rich guy not wanting to be taxed more. He didn't go from being 9 billion in debt to 5 billion positive by being an idiot when it comes to money.

His opinion on the economy is gold.
 

Gavik

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This doesn't really do much to discredit the fact that the McCain campaign can't keep its story straight about how it stands on the economy for even 2 days in a row.
 

Mirage

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Well, considering Trump knows the real estate and housing market better than probably anybody alive today... I think it's safe to say he knows a thing or two more than either candidate on the issue. He's looked at both economic proposals and has said that Obama's "tax the rich to oblivion" plan will cripple the economy.

In one of Donald Trump's books he starts it off with "5 billion reasons you should listen to me." He had made 5 billion dollars at the time (after he came out of debt big time). You really can't argue with the man who knows the market inside and out. He says Obama's plan will fail so it will fail. Simple as that. There's not a single politician who has made anywhere near 5 billion. If there's one person who knows how money works it's Donald Trump. I'd love to see him go one on one with Obama in an economic debate. Obama would set a new record for most "uhhs" ever uttered in a single debate. His plan is set up to fail, plain and simple. It will kill American businesses and the economy in general.
 
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Mirage

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Trump for president. :rolleyes:
Do you want to say he doesn't know how money works? Making 5 billion dollars is hard. Most people will never do it in their lives.

Ignorance just makes you look stupid in this argument. ;)
 

Major

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Making money is different than understanding what's best for an entire country. Donald Trump is a jackass and honestly I couldn't care less who he endorses.
 

Gavik

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Do you want to say he doesn't know how money works? Making 5 billion dollars is hard. Most people will never do it in their lives.

Ignorance just makes you look stupid in this argument. ;)
And ad hominem isn't doing much for your point. The way you frame it, he either falls in line with your "Obama is a socialist" mantra or is an ignorant slob.

Okay, the man made money. Making a 14 billion net gain isn't something that most people do on a daily basis. Good for Trump.

But tell me, since when is being rich a qualification to lead the country? McCain's Economic Plan (if you can even say he has one, since he's said repeatedly that he doesn't know the economy) has no fundamental difference from that of Bush's. And isn't a fundamental change in order? We've seen deregulation lead to the collapse of the housing investment markets - the most solid aspect of the economy, while McCain's tried to talk his way out of his policies' role in it all.

McCain's plan is simple: Stay the course. Hybrix, by your logic, we should all be living under the watchful eye of Bill Gates.
 

Mirage

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Hey Bill Gates is extremely smart as well. (Different thread though lol)

And as for McCain's economic plan vs. Bush's. Bush's economic plan wasn't the problem. The war was. Take the war out of the picture and do you think we'd still be spending nearly as much? I doubt it.

Back on Obama though. Obama has never run a business in his life. That also means he's never run a business during an economic hard time. Trump has. Not just one but hundreds if not thousands. Are you telling me he doesn't know what businesses will do if their taxes are raised? I guess you're right. Obama, who has never run a business in his life would be more qualified than Trump to understand how the economy effects businesses which in turn effect the economy again. Trump has only been there and had to make the decisions himself when the economy takes turns for the worse.

Talk about something being "above Obama's paygrade." I'd say given the financial understanding and business experience of both people, Trump is easily more knowleagable on the situation and how Obama's plan will effect the economy.
 

Gavik

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And as for McCain's economic plan vs. Bush's. Bush's economic plan wasn't the problem. The war was. Take the war out of the picture and do you think we'd still be spending nearly as much? I doubt it.
There's not a lot to support the assumption that John McCain will do anything to end the war, which in your view, would solve a lot of our economic problems.

Back on Obama though. Obama has never run a business in his life. That also means he's never run a business during an economic hard time. Trump has. Not just one but hundreds if not thousands. Are you telling me he doesn't know what businesses will do if their taxes are raised? I guess you're right. Obama, who has never run a business in his life would be more qualified than Trump to understand how the economy effects businesses which in turn effect the economy again. Trump has only been there and had to make the decisions himself when the economy takes turns for the worse.

Talk about something being "above Obama's paygrade." I'd say given the financial understanding and business experience of both people, Trump is easily more knowleagable on the situation and how Obama's plan will effect the economy.
I don't think one successful businessman's view is the final word on the economy, especially when he's the type of celebrity the McCain camp has been painting Obama as. Are all politicians who havn't had previously successful business careers unqualified? Tell me then, which business did McCain run before he ran for office? He was in the Navy, so should he bring his experience from that field, much like you suggest the businessmen do from theirs, and run the country like a military?

For more on this, I think we should turn to Carly Fiorina, recently fired from the McCain's campaign for doing the unthinkable - telling the truth.

YouTube - Carly Fiorina: No Candidates Could Run a Major Company
 

Mirage

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I think you are missing the point though. Trump's celebrity status has nothing to do with it. My point is that clearly he has an understanding on how money works, how businesses work, and how businesses work in relation to taxes. He looked at both plans and said that McCain's plan was stronger for the economy.

Why wouldn't his opinion on the matter be valid? I think you'd have to go out and make 5 billion yourself through a plethora of companies and the real estate market over the years before you could truly try to tell somebody who has done this already that they are wrong in their opinion on how taxes effect businesses..

I mean clearly he is one of the most successful businessmen in America. I think he's had to deal with taxes during his time and I'm sure he can speak first hand on how higher taxes effected his companies. Obviously he was successful so obviously he had to deal with taxes as they went up and down. I think he can look back at those times when taxes were higher and remember "Oh yeah, I laid people off". What smart businessman would take a loss just to keep extra employees on board? It would be unheard of and would just be bad business.

Like I said earlier, Obama has never run a business so he really doesn't have any understanding on the issue aside from the standard Democratic stance of tax those with the most so they can fire those with the least.
 
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