Does This Video Affect You?

Mirage

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This is a trailer for a documentary called "The I Heart Revolution: We're All In This Together" created by Christian worship band "Hillsong United". This video doesn't even mention religion, so just watch it and see what you think:

THE I HEART REVOLUTION: WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER TEASER on Vimeo

Do you agree with the message of this trailer? I ordered the documentary on eBay the other day and will be watching it in its entirety when it arrives. So far I agree with what was said in this trailer.

I think the following quote sums up my thoughts on this trailer:

"It is the greatest of all mistakes to do nothing because you can only do little - do what you can." - Sydney Smith
 
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Major

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I would definitely like to see the full documentary. I'll have to look into ordering it. I agree when they say "It's not right, it's not fair." Doesn't this kind of go against your political beliefs though?
 

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I would definitely like to see the full documentary. I'll have to look into ordering it. I agree when they say "It's not right, it's not fair." Doesn't this kind of go against your political beliefs though?
Not at all. I don't believe people should be "forced" to help others, i.e. socialism/communism. But I definitely believe that everybody should do what they can regardless of what other people choose to do. Even Jesus said to give money to the poor, but he gave people the choice. He didn't condone forcing people to give to the poor:

18A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
19"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. 20You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.'[a]"

21"All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said.

22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

23When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth.

Luke 18:18-23
I haven't seen the documentary but I'd be willing to bet they are raising awareness in order to inspire people to give out of the goodness of their hearts, not raising awareness in order to push for government policies that force charitable donations and whatnot.
 

Major

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Not at all. I don't believe people should be "forced" to help others, i.e. socialism/communism. But I definitely believe that everybody should do what they can regardless of what other people choose to do.
Well the theme of the documentary from what I gather is that it's not fair that some of us are living in comfort and luxury while others around the world are not. You've always argued that those with money have it because they earned it, and those without money should just work harder. So how is it "not fair?"
 

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I am a huge fan of Hillsong myself. I used to attend the Hillsong church in the UK and have all their I heart Rev. CD's. I love what they do and the message they are spreading.

I cannot assume to know what Brix has posted in the past as I have not even been here 2 months. But I suspect the message is that those of us who are living in comfort should give to the poor! And as for working hard to earn you worth, well, that is biblical as well. But then those who earn money should give to those who are not priviledged enough to even have an income...!?
 

Mirage

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Well the theme of the documentary from what I gather is that it's not fair that some of us are living in comfort and luxury while others around the world are not. You've always argued that those with money have it because they earned it, and those without money should just work harder. So how is it "not fair?"
Well, find one post where I said starving people in Africa should just work harder and I will eat every shirt I own.

I have said such things about people in America who think that the rich owe them a living. I don't believe anybody should be forced to give their money away regardless of how much somebody else needs it though, for the same reasons that I don't think stealing is ok under any circumstances. I do believe that everybody with money has a personal responsibility to help those without it OUT OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL. Free will is key.
 

JessEpiphany

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These kinds of thoughts go through my mind almost daily so while I do agree with message, I can't say it "moved" me... certainly didn't move me to buy the documentary though.
After you watch it, will you tell us a bit more about it? I'm curious to know if there's anything else in there to maybe guide people as how to help.
 

Stegosaurus

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It didn't move me--I'm already there. That mindset follows me every single day. I have to take breaks from thinking about it, actually, lest I become overwhelmed with ire and indignation. I think the message is simply, "Help/do something/pick a cause other than yourself." More than being about the poor overseas, I think the moral underpinning is that we cannot live but only for ourselves. I see the parallelism quite clearly, and I would extrapolate and say that the overarching theme is simply one of selflessness, whatever the application.

For those already concerned about others than themselves, I think the documentary will be of little use/effect. But for others who perhaps live in a personal milieu, this will be useful. I look forward to hearing what you have to say about it after you buy it.
 

MenInTights

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I really don't like the its not fair talk because its such a moving target. Its not fair that people in Hong Kong are millionaires and most of the people around me are below poverty level.

I know where you're at Hybrix, so I'm not accusing you of this, but there's a movement in Christianity to bring up the world's standards without preaching salvation and this video to me smacks of that. The problem is since that is the #1 focus, they will do that by any means necessary. So a leader says ok, you can come in, but no talk about Christ or they will team with a rock star that is anti-Christian.

If I cloth and feed someone in the name of Christ and never mention Christ haven't I just sent him to Hell with a full stomach and a warm coat? As long as its in perspective, I think its great. This just seems all about helping the needy to me and nothing else. Maybe I'm wrong.
 

pro2A

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The reason there are two classes of people in the world should go to show you what happens when people are free. In America and most of the free world people understand the solution to the human condition is Liberty. 250 years of the most successful country the globe has ever seen is proof enough. No government program created this country, free people created this country... fellow man has helped fellow man (without government interference) and they both benefit from it. Free people made our lives better for us... this is why we have fresh water, plentiful food, great medical care and nice houses.

The problem with those starving kids in third world nations is not because no one cares, it's because they are oppressed by despotic dictators. You can not create and help your fellow man when the heavy hand of some despot is in the way to keep their subjects submissive.

The issue here is a lack of liberty, and where liberty is free to prosper, those nations will prosper.
 
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