Biden Gaffe Is Likely A Warning That Obama Will Impose The Draft if he is elected

Kolu

New Member
#1
Obama made clear that he was a strong supporter of the draft at the ServiceNation Presidential Forum at Columbia University on Sept. 11, 2008.

But it’s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it’s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.



The Obama campaign is playing down Biden's "gaffe" by saying that international crisis is common when a new president takes office. They're correct in saying that. The point that Biden was making was not that Obama will be tested but rather some very specific decisions that Obama was going to make that would be unpopular with Americans regarding the crisis. He's warning that the decisions that Obama would make are going to be so unpopular that the polls will reflect a very low popularity rating for Obama. He explains that it will be a decision that people will claim not to have known that he'd make. I believe that Bidden is talking about Obama imposing the draft. Although Obama said he favors the draft at the forum, it's never been in the MSM and the vast majority of people have no idea. A lot of his support is coming from people and groups who believe that Obama wants to keep us out of war and conscription contradicts that. Biden:



“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you - not financially to help him - we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”


"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."


Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it.
 

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
#3
Obama made clear that he was a strong supporter of the draft at the ServiceNation Presidential Forum at Columbia University on Sept. 11, 2008.




The Obama campaign is playing down Biden's "gaffe" by saying that international crisis is common when a new president takes office. They're correct in saying that. The point that Biden was making was not that Obama will be tested but rather some very specific decisions that Obama was going to make that would be unpopular with Americans regarding the crisis. He's warning that the decisions that Obama would make are going to be so unpopular that the polls will reflect a very low popularity rating for Obama. He explains that it will be a decision that people will claim not to have known that he'd make. I believe that Bidden is talking about Obama imposing the draft. Although Obama said he favors the draft at the forum, it's never been in the MSM and the vast majority of people have no idea. A lot of his support is coming from people and groups who believe that Obama wants to keep us out of war and conscription contradicts that. Biden:



Welcome to the board. That's an excellent analysis of the gaffe. Really. If it came to it and we needed it, I'd 100% support Obama for imposing the draft. That's frightening.
 

MenInTights

not a plastic bag
#5
This copy pasta is already on the 'Net forty times over. FAIL.
ahh- it is. Too bad.
Just to clarify, except for the fact it was too cryptic, I really liked what Biden said. He didn't mean to, but he gave a real policy speech and then America is left to decide if we agree with it or not. That's much more preferred than "4 more years of Bush" and "going to raise your taxes". But, we live in a soundbite world, what can you do?