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Anti-Vaxxers Fund Study That Finds Zero Link Between Vaccinations and Autism

Unity

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Anti-Vaxxers Fund Study That Finds Zero Link Between Vaccinations and Autism

October 6, 2015 | by Josh L Davis

The overwhelming majority of scientists agree: Vaccinations do not cause autism. Studyafter study has shown this, and even the original research used to peddle this myth was eventually retracted due to falsified data. But this hasn’t stopped many anti-vaccination groups from still trying to create data that says otherwise, often by commissioning studies that they hope will support their ideologies.

But for one group at least, this method of funding scientific studies to prove their point seems to have backfired. A six-year study looking into the effect that vaccinations have on the neurological development and social behavior of rhesus macaque infants, funded in part by the anti-vaccination and autism advocacy group SafeMinds, concluded that there was no evidence at all for such a link.

That didn’t stop the group from claiming the results didn’t change things. In a statement, they say that they had “concerns about changes in the study design protocol and analysis that may have led to these contradictory results.” The contradiction they are referring to is the fact that they were previously given preliminary results from a smaller trial, which purported to back up their position, before the study was expanded to include more subjects and underwent more rigorous standards that eventually found zero evidence.

The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, involved 79 infant monkeys in six groups. Two groups were given thimerosal-containing vaccines. Thimerosal is an antiseptic and antifungal agent that was frequently used in vaccinations until it was removed in the U.S from vaccines given to children in the 90s, and is frequently cited by anti-vaxxers as a cause for autism. The next two groups were given the MMR vaccine (also claimed to cause autism) without thimerosal, and the final two were given saline injections as a control.

The scientists then studied the behavior of the macaques as they interacted in social situations, looking for “autistic-like” behaviors. They found nothing. Some people diagnosed with autism have been observed to have smaller hippocampal cells and lower numbers of cells in the amygdala. After euthanizing the monkeys, the scientists conducted post-mortems on the animals’ brains, looking for these changes. They found no differences between the groups, stating that: “Our data do not support a role for thimerosal-containing vaccines in the neuropathology of autism spectrum disorder.”

Despite the researchers saying they gave their data to an independent statistical consultant, SafeMinds still want to see a reanalysis of the data. “We feel that embedded within these data sets there are animals that have potentially an adverse reaction to this vaccine schedule that would mirror what happens in human infants,” SafeMinds President Sallie Bernard told Newsweek. It seems that when you pay for the research yourself, the results can be harder to swallow.

[H/T: Newsweek]
Talk amongst yourselves.

 

Hilander

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Safemind said the results didn't change things, in other words if it doesn't support their beliefs they are going to remain closed minded about it and keep spreading their disinformation. How many kids will end up dead because of people like this.
 

The_Chameleon

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I believe what it means is that the proposed possible link to autism is not the only reason "anti-vaxxers" are against vaccines. Vaccines contain many toxic ingredients which are known to science to have damaging effects on the body's organs and systems. Dosages are not adjusted to body weight when administered to young children. And the effectiveness of vaccines is still in question. I logged on today to post a thread on the subject of vaccines underlining, among other things, these very points.



- Cham
 

Hilander

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In other words they can't prove autism so they are moving on to something else while possibly the real culprit is overlooked.
 

The_Chameleon

Grandmaster
Research into the causes of autism will continue regardless of whether or not some are hung up on the theory of vaccines being causal. I am still inclined to think that there is a link, but that's a statement of opinion. I've just skimmed over the story linked to above.

But for one group at least, this method of funding scientific studies to prove their point seems to have backfired. A six-year study looking into the effect that vaccinations have on the neurological development and social behavior of rhesus macaque infants...
I see the problem right there. The microbial ecology of a monkeys gut and that of a human is VERY different. The running theory on the link between vaccines and autism is that, in some children, it destroys certain essential bacteria in the gut, leaving it to be taken over by claustridia bacteria, which releases a neurotoxin that causes the symptoms and behavior changes associated with autism. The experiment is fundamentally flawed.



- Cham
 
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Rapier

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What Cham said and Merck stated that vaccines can cause encephalitis and encephalitis is a KNOWN cause of autism. Encephalitis is a fever of the brain. It's like a flash flood.
 

Rapier

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In other words they can't prove autism so they are moving on to something else while possibly the real culprit is overlooked.
All it took was a click or two.
http://www.safeminds.org/blog/2015/10/05/why-arent-i-surprised-that-the-media-got-it-wrong-again/
But in reading the research published last week, the part of the study that SafeMinds specifically was asked to fund was never conducted. The scientists chose not to look at the brains of the primates from this arm of the study. They have not communicated to us why they chose not to—and they have informed us via email that they are not permitted to speak with us about the study findings or the discrepancies in what was reported to us and what was published, but we can submit our questions in writing. And that is what we are currently doing.

Now you know the back-story.

An accurate headline for Newsweek’s article, published Friday, October 2, would have been: “Scientists Publish Contradictory Research Results, Funders Are Asking Why.” Or perhaps, “Vaccine-Autism Science Still Unclear.”

Instead Newsweek’s headline blares: “Anti-Vaxxers Accidentally Fund a Study Showing No Link Between Autism and Vaccines.”
 

Rapier

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V.I.P.
I believe what it means is that the proposed possible link to autism is not the only reason "anti-vaxxers" are against vaccines. Vaccines contain many toxic ingredients which are known to science to have damaging effects on the body's organs and systems. Dosages are not adjusted to body weight when administered to young children. And the effectiveness of vaccines is still in question. I logged on today to post a thread on the subject of vaccines underlining, among other things, these very points.



- Cham
The combination/tri/quad vaccines are so beyond science that it makes me wonder if we are all dreaming.
I may have stated that it is plausible, but I don't recall stating such a connection to Encephalitis as fact.

What I am talking about here is outlined in the link below.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9881820


- Cham
What Cham said
I was agreeing with you.

And added my input.


and Merck stated that vaccines can cause encephalitis and encephalitis is a KNOWN cause of autism. Encephalitis is a fever of the brain. It's like a flash flood.
 

Hilander

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From the OP.
Some people diagnosed with autism have been observed to have smaller hippocampal cells and lower numbers of cells in the amygdala. After euthanizing the monkeys, the scientists conducted post-mortems on the animals’ brains, looking for these changes. They found no differences between the groups, stating that: “Our data do not support a role for thimerosal-containing vaccines in the neuropathology of autism spectrum disorder.”
What is Safeminds talking about? They say clearly here they did look at the brain of the monkeys.
 
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