I know that many people think that people that gave theres lives doing their jobs...are heroes, but I think otherwise, but I do believe they are brave as hell, for wanting to do the job they do, so I am going to make this thread dedicated to any Firefighter, or Policeofficer people know that have died in the line of duty. Myself i know several, but for me the grief is still to near to talk about them, but anyone can talk about about whoever, etc.
I agree with you, Piccolo. When you think about it, 9/11 kinda showed the true colors of those who actually gave their lives to help those people. I can't say that I would've possesed that bravery. I don't know anyone who helped out during 9/11, but I commend all of those who did.
I agree these firefighters and policeman and other important people, they knew what they where getting into, and they knew that they didn't have a lot chance to survive, and I really respect that.
They are doing their jobs, and if you actually talk to a police officer, firefighter, etc, they dont considering themselves heroes as well, since they are doing what they signed up for, but that does not make them any less brave, etc. I dont considering the people that died during 9/11 to be heroes either, I just have a lot of respect for them, since they paid the ultimate price doing their job. I will be seeing Gound Zero in June as well, should be interesting.
WE already discuss this so I wont get into it, but I agree that they don't consider themselves heroes because they don't want to flather themselves first of all, but this is a different situation, and I really doubt they ever expected this would happen, if they did then lots of them would quit before hand.
Yeah some of them have more pride then that, but i believe a lot of them will, and I am sure a lot of them refuse to go in the Burning Trade Centre, and probably they felt like cowards at the end, so they gave up their position. But I respect every man and women who risk their lives going into a situation where there's a low risk of surviving.
The Bravest by Tom Paxton The first plane hit the other tower Right after I came in It left a fiery, gaping hole Where offices had been We stood and watched in horror As we saw the first ones fall Then someone yelled, "Get out! Get out! They're trying to kill us all" I grabbed the pictures from my desk And joined the flight for life With every step I called the names Of my children and my wife And then we heard them coming up From several floors below - A crowd of fire fighters With their heavy gear in tow Chorus: Now every time I try to sleep I'm haunted by the sound Of firemen pounding up the stairs While we were running down And when we met them on the stairs They said we were too slow "Get out! Get out!" they yelled at us "The whole thing's going to go" They didn't have to tell us twice We'd seen the world on fire We kept on running down the stairs While they kept climbing higher Chorus Thank God we made it to the street We ran through ash and smoke I did not know which way to run - I thought that I would choke A fireman took me by the arm And pointed me uptown Then, "Christ!" I heard him whisper As the tower came roaring down So now I go to funerals For men I never knew The pipers play "Amazing Grace" As the coffins come in view They must have seen it coming When they turned to face the fire They sent us down to safety Then they kept on climbing higher. Chorus I don't know about the title hero. To me, its all semantics. But these people definitely deserve honor and respect. And I think that arguing over semantic nonsense is really defeating the purpose.
My grandfather worked for the firedepartment 22years. Although retired, he went down to the World Trade Center, following 9/11. About a year later he was diagnosed with cancer, because he possibly inhaled too many toxins @ the site. I heard many people working near the 9/11 site died of similar conditions. It sucks, I lived w/ my grandfather - he was practically my dad. He passed late last year. He was a hero, he died with out showing any signs of pain. Up until he was in a chritical state, he'd act as if things were fine to keep me from worrying. I thought he'd make it out the hospital but i guess not.
