8 year-old appears in court on charges of killing father

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  1. Suzie

    Suzie Registered Member

    This story is already a few days old, so sorry if this is already posted somewhere. I searched and didn't find it anywhere.




    ST. JOHNS, Ariz. - Hundreds of mourners packed a funeral Monday for a man allegedly shot to death by his 8-year-old son, while friends and neighbors disputed any suggestion the boy had been abused by his father.
    They painted a picture of Vincent Romero as a caring father who seemed to be doing all he could to raise a polite and respectful boy.

    "They were always together doing things as a family, fishing, hunting," Carlos Diaz, a cousin of Romero's current wife, said after the funeral Mass at St. John the Baptist Catholic Church.
    About 600 people filled the rural Arizona church in this town of about 4,000. People who could not get in crowded around an open door or sat on chairs set up outside. Romero, an avid hunter, was in a casket with a camouflage lid.

    Romero, a 29-year-old employee of a construction company, was shot with a .22-caliber rifle last Wednesday along with Timothy Romans, a 39-year-old man who rented a room in his house.
    Police say the boy planned killings
    Police said Romero's son planned and methodically carried out the killings, and confessed. Authorities would not discuss specifics of the confession. The boy has been charged with two counts of murder.
    The boy appeared in court on Monday, wearing handcuffs at the hearing in St. Johns and sat restlessly next to his mother. Some people in the audience cried as he entered.

    The judge gave defense attorneys until Friday to either find an expert to evaluate the boy's competency or to agree to one suggested by the prosecutors.
    Police Chief Roy Melnick said over the weekend that police were looking into whether the boy might have been abused. He would not say who might be under scrutiny. The police department said in a statement Monday that a court had issued an order prohibiting the release of any further information about the case.
    Prosecutors said that there was no record of any complaints filed about the boy with Arizona Child Protective Services and that the youngster had no disciplinary record at school.

    Romero had full custody of the child. The boy's mother is in Mississippi, according to officials. Police said the boy's stepmother was not home at the time of the shooting.
    The boy's attorney complained that police questioned the third-grader without representation from a parent or attorney and did not advise him of his rights.
    Relatives and friends say no abuse
    Relatives and friends of Romero's in the town 170 miles (273 kilometers) northeast of Phoenix said they saw no signs of abuse by the father.
    Carl Hamblin, a neighbor who had once coached the father in Little League, said he often saw Romero and his son at football games or out in the yard, playing baseball.
    "He appeared to be doing the right things as a dad," Hamblin said.
    Neighbors Flynt and Amber Smith described the father and son as "two peas in a pod."
    "They were good people, and I'd have to say good parents, and made sure (the boy) was respectful to people," Amber Smith said.
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    I can't imagine how this boy is feeling. I know that he killed his father and his fathers friend. And that is terrible, but he is so young and must be feeling so scared and alone right now. I wonder if he is going to regret it all when he is old enough to understand everything. I also wonder if he was abused...what made such a young boy do something like this? :shake:
     
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  2. Xeilo

    Xeilo Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    You would imagine he will be regretting it when he becomes older and knows fully whats going on, unless he is some disturbed person. Feel sorry for the family, this is why I wouldn't give young kids access to guns.
     
  3. Iris

    Iris rainbow 11!

    I am wondering the same things, Q. I can't even begin to imagine the abuse he endured to be pushed to that limit. (If there was abuse)
     
  4. Suzie

    Suzie Registered Member

    Exactly... this is a huge reason why I won't have a gun in my house. I don't care how 'locked up you keep them", I believe something can always happen.
     
  5. Mirage

    Mirage Administrator Staff Member V.I.P.

    Apparently he might face being tried as an adult.

    I'm not so sure he shouldn't given the premeditated aspect of this murder.

    But seriously I can't believe we are even discussing this topic. I can't believe an 8 year old would even do this in the first place. :(

    Do you guys think the kid should be tried as an adult and risk life in prison?

    There are two sides to the coin. First, you could say he's too young to realize what he did. Second, and worse, you could say that if he's capable of double homicide at age 8, what else will he do later in life.

    It's a tricky situation. I'd also like to know how he got access to the gun in the first place.
     
  6. Xeilo

    Xeilo Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    I don't think the kid should go to court, he is too young.
     
  7. Suzie

    Suzie Registered Member

    I read somewhere that they took him in handcuffs...imagine that. An 8 year old...(THIRD grader) walking in handcuffs.

    I don't think he should be tried as an adult. He is just a kid. I think they should keep a close eye on him under a psychiatric. But I also don't think he should just be allowed out again. But what do you do with someone so young?
     
  8. Easily-Amused

    Easily-Amused http://easily-amused.com/

    well what else are they going to do? they cant just let this "slide"... he killed two people! yes, he's eight years old but eight-year-olds usually have an obsession with death once they learn what it is. he probably wasn't really aware that he could CAUSE death... I don't know. I'm really into child development, which is where I got the previous information.

    i think its appalling that this has happened, and I'm not really sure how to try him fairly. he is a kid, and im not sure how much he understands. a lot more than we think he does, probably.
     
  9. BigBob

    BigBob Registered Member

    I agree with that completely.

    But I also don't think he should just be allowed out again. But what do you do with someone so young?[/quote]
    I think they should let him out after they run tests on him, but also they should keep him away for years until they are sure nothing is wrong.
     
  10. Barbara

    Barbara Ess Tii Eph Yu V.I.P. Lifetime

    Regardless of how they try him the boy did wrong. And not that sort of little wrong that a slap on the wrist is for. The boy killed. Bottum line period end.

    Before anything he needs to be psychologically evaluated to determine his mental health. If he is deranged then lock him away in a psychiatric hospital. If he is sane then he needs to at least go to Juvenile. They also need to look into the abuse claims. If they hold true then he still needs to be locked up in a psychiatric ward.
     

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