4Chan Vigilantism against cat abusers.

Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Vincent_Valentine, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. Vincent_Valentine

    Vincent_Valentine Studley-Do-Right

    So the story is as follows: Some idiot teenager and his friend make a video of themselves abusing a cat and post it on Youtube under the impression that people will find it as anything other than horrible (the original has since been deleted, but this site has a working version as of right now: WARNING: It can be difficult to watch if you are an animal lover!). If you watched that, you can agree that it is pretty damn fucked up. If you didn't, then take my word that it's pretty fucked up. But here is where things get interesting in my opinion. 4chan gets ahold of this video and decides that they want to take matters into their own hands. Since this is 4chan, they take it to rediculious extremes. They do some detective work and find out who one of the kids is and gets not only his information, but the information of a good chunk of his family, including addresses, phone numbers, google map directions, etc. They essentially launch a war on the kid. At one point the first two pages of /b/ were almost entirely devoted to how people were messing with the kid, ranging from calling his parents to tell them to punish him to calling the local authorities and news stations to get the word out, with some going so far as to say they weren't going to stop harassing him until the kid killed himself.

    What I want to know is this: is it really deserving of this? Don't get me wrong, what the idiots did to the cat was horrible, and if I would have seen it happening I would have punched them straight in the faces, but 4chan has essentially decided to ruin the kids life. They are likely to be charged for animal abuse, so he will have a mark on his record, but there is also the damage done to his family. They will probably have to change their phone number and mailing details, they will have to dispose of tons of stuff that 4channers have mailed to them, etc... So does he really deserve it? Or is it just another case of 4chan going way too far?

    Also, here is a local news report on the issue (with horribly synced audio for some reason). It contains some of the abuse video, so if you really don't want to see it, then don't watch this either.

    YouTube - Kenny Glenn the Cat Abuser on local news
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2009

  2. Xeilo

    Xeilo Registered Member V.I.P. Lifetime

    I caught it on youtube when they were spamming the video on the net, I found it very disturinbing that these young kids were doing such a thing. Yes if I saw them I would punch them in the face, yes I think they should get some sort of punishment, not sure what tho. But I think it is too far that they got the details of the kids and are making stupid phone calls to the family as well as letters and possibly emails. That is too far.
     
  3. Syndicate

    Syndicate Chirp Chirp

    4chan are forever putting their weight behind some 'righteous cause'. It's packed with rebelious, angst-ridden teens looking for purpose. I'll admit to cheering at the occasional chaos they've instigated but they do often go too far, which they seem to be in this case.

    I did click the video, however.. and had to stop after a few seconds. I saw a similar type of video a while back of a couple of kids throwing a cat off an upper floor of some flats, down onto the pavement. They repeated this several times, laughing hysterically until they eventually killed it. I'm not sure why I watched it but by the end, to say I was angry is an enormous understatement. If I'd had access to any way of hurting them at the time, I'd likely have done so - whether that was the right thing to do or not.

    So on one hand, I can understand the rage and the motive but at the same time, mob justice is a dangerous, backwards thinking solution (albeit satisfying one) and cannot be morally justified. It's amusing really how people are so often quick to condemn this reactionary behavior in certain areas of the world, championing law and order.. yet when opportunity knocks, practice the opposite.

    Maybe they see the law too lenient and their likely punishment as insufficient for their actions but the danger is, once you're at the point of action you're not always able to stop when you should. I dare say these guys deserved some kind backlash but ultimately it's not our job to impose our subjective justice but make sure the proper system of law is functional and effective.
     
  4. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    4chan is a joke because this just shows what hypocrites they are. They have no problem whacking it to gore porn or making fun of the handicapped, the dead, or 9-11. They have no souls and no empathy towards anyone. But god forbid we hurt their precious kitty cats.

    :rolleyes:

    I'm obviously not condoning animal abuse, that's sick and the kid deserves some humiliation, but 4chan acting out is stupid and pathetic in my opinion. They simply prove day in and day out what they are: whiny children who hate everything except small fluffy creatures.

    How cute.
     
  5. Nevyrmoore

    Nevyrmoore AKA Ass-Bandit

    It's a well known fact that cats are 4chan's only weakness.

    That being said, I'd be interested to know if the community was, once again, split over this, the "moralfags" on one side and whatever the hell the other side is called.

    I'll be willing to bet you'll have at least three typs of anon involved in this - the morally driven anon, the lulz driven anon, and the internet hate machine anon. Some minor humiliation would have been good to see, and probably given by the lulz anons. Most aren't in it for ruining someones life, or the cause, or whatever, they just give a few minor pranks. They essentialy do it for the fun of it, same with the trolling of scientology and the habbo raids. The IHM anons and moral anons are likely to take it further. IHM seem to love taking it to the extreme (probably the ones who "weren't going to stop harassing him until the kid killed himself"), and the moral anons will do it on...well, Cons put it right with "Don't harm the precious kitties!"

    4chan may seem to be driven by one cause, but it's actually a lot more divided than you'd think.

    Not that I'm defending it. It's still full of fail and AIDS.
     
  6. Iris

    Iris rainbow 11!

    I couldn't watch it. I watched maybe five seconds until he started to shake the cat.

    I think the kid deserves everything he gets, though his family should be left out of it. God, what kind of person does that?
     
  7. Cait

    Cait Oh, poppycock.

    I watched that video. I wanted to stop a few seconds in, but something compelled me to watch it. I don't care what happens to the kid. I think he needs some serious therapy at the very least.
     
  8. AnitaKnapp

    AnitaKnapp It's not me, it's you. V.I.P. Lifetime

    I won't even click on the video, I don't want to see it or know.

    There's something really wrong with someone who would torture a defenseless animal. I'm glad he's receiving backlash for it, maybe it will make him think twice before he tortures something else. However, harassing him until he kills himself is a bit much.
     
  9. Stab-o-Matic5000

    Stab-o-Matic5000 Cutting Edge in Murder

    All truth. Yeah, on 4chan, there was a rather large argument over whether the kid should be raided. The "moralfags" and people who just plain like to raid people were all on board, while some others were saying stuff like "YOU'VE ALL GONE SOFT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE CAT DIED!", failing to see that death would perhaps be preferable then to be left to the cruel hands of this disturbed child.

    As for the whole ruining his life bit, yeah, the ordering of pizzas and such to his house is kind of retarded (but also kind of funny) but they did contact the local authorities and had the cat taken away from the kid. As far as I'm concerned, justice is served insofar as the cat is safe. Eventually 4chan's collective ADHD will kick in and they'll forget this kid ever existed and stop messing with him.
     
  10. Iris

    Iris rainbow 11!

    Well, is that all they are doing, Stab? Nothing serious like death threats? If it's just a bunch of pizzas and the like, then they can get over it.

    Honestly, a good beating done to the kid wouldn't hurt. :/

    Seriously, I watched the news clip and I am in tears, after my first post I immediately got up and cuddled with my kitty, saying how much I love her.
     
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