16 Questions about the Gulf Oil Spill

Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by MenInTights, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. MenInTights

    MenInTights not a plastic bag

    16 Questions About the Gulf Oil Spill that Need Answering | Oil Price.com

    These is great, thought provoking stuff. I haven't dug deep into so I really don't know the validity of it all, but some of the questions are shocking.
    16-Could the vast majority of the Gulf become one big dead zone?

    And if you follow the link above, almost all of these questions are sourced.
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    1) Barack Obama has authorized the deployment of more than 17,000 National Guard members along the Gulf coast to be used "as needed" by state governors. So what are all of these National Guard troops going to be doing exactly? Are the troops going to be used to stop the oil or to control the public?

    2) Barack Obama has also announced the creation of a "Gulf recovery czar" who will be in charge of overseeing the restoration of the Gulf of Mexico region following the oil spill. So is appointing a "czar" Obama's idea of taking charge of a situation?

    3) Because it is so incredibly toxic, the UK's Marine Management Organization has completely banned Corexit 9500, so if there was a major oil spill in the UK's North Sea, BP would not be able to use it. So why is BP being allowed to use Corexit 9500 in the Gulf of Mexico?

    4) It is being reported that 2.61 parts per million of Corexit 9500 (mixed with oil at a ratio of 1:1o) is lethal to 50% of fish exposed to it within 96 hours. That means that 1 gallon of Corexit 9500/oil mixture is capable of rendering 383,141 gallons of water highly toxic to fish. So why was BP allowed to dump 1,021,000 gallons of Corexit 9500 and Corexit 9527 into the Gulf of Mexico, and why aren't they being stopped from dumping another 805,000 gallons of these dispersants that they have on order into the Gulf?

    5) If these dispersants are so incredibly toxic to fish, what are they going to do to crops? What are they going to do to people?

    6) If the smell of the oil on some Gulf beaches is already so strong that it burns your nostrils, then what in the world is this oil doing to to wildlife that encounter it?

    7) Is it a bad sign that birds from the Gulf region are flocking north by the thousands?

    8) Why is BP being allowed to use private security contractors to keep the American people away from the oil cleanup sites?

    9) Why is BP openly attempting to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo?

    10) Why has the FAA shut down the airspace above the Gulf of Mexico oil spill? What don't they want the American people to see?

    11) Senator Bill Nelson of Florida says that there are reports that there are additional ruptures in the sea floor from which oil is leaking. If there are quite a few of these additional ruptures, then how in the world does BP expect to completely stop this oil leak?

    12) Why are scientists finding concentrations of methane at up to 10,000 times normal background levels in Gulf waters?

    13) At some testing stations in the Gulf of Mexico, levels of benzene have been detected at over 3000 parts per billion, and levels of hydrogen sulfide have been detected as high as 1192 parts per billion. Considering that these levels would be highly toxic to humans, why hasn't the general public been warned?

    14) Why are so many Gulf oil spill disaster workers showing up at local hospitals complaining of a "mysterious illness"?

    15) If "70% or 80%" of the protective booms are doing absolutely nothing at all to stop the oil, then what is going to stop the millions of gallons of oil in the Gulf from eventually reaching shore?

    16) It is being reported that the deepsea oil plumes are creating huge "dead zones" where all creatures are dying as they are deprived of oxygen. If this oil spill continues to grow could the vast majority of the Gulf of Mexico become one gigantic "dead zone"?
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  2. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    I have a hunch that this administration wants to take over the oil industry. Lets start with this little slip up. She certainly let the cat out of the bag...

    YouTube - Maxine Waters (D) Slip of the Tongue Reveals True Intentions (Socialism for America)

    Couple that with the fact that Obama has already taken over the banks, car companies and student loans. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where this oil spill is gonna go.

    After this shakedown of BP I foresee them not being able to pay up due to the loss of stock and of face. Then the government will swoop in and take over this "failing" company. Simple as that. I think Obama is letting this get bad so people are furious at oil companies, so he can swoop in and save the day A la takeovers with relative ease.
     
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  3. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    I'm having a hard time not laughing over the right's outrage about the oil spill and how they're trying to blame Obama. I mean, it was the right that got all pissed when tighter regulations were pushed on big oil years ago and that was when Darth Cheney was behind the wheel and in the pocket of big oil. The left is doing its best job of damage control, which has been shit poor so far. Meanwhile, the right is just continuing its juvenile cries of socialism and trying it's best to make fun of the left in any way it can.

    Notice the similarity?

    Neither side is looking for solutions. That is why I hate this country and have hated it for awhile now. Everyone is so concerned with their goddamn colors and who is secretly plotting to throw rocks at the others' treehouse that nothing ever gets fixed in this country.
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    This serves as proof of the right's need to simply create hysteria rather than solve anything (both sides do it, the right is simply working the oil angle). Why is this a good example?

    The "B" in "BP" stands for "British". Guess what country they're based out of? Here's a hint, it doesn't start with United and end with America. Obama is not going to "swoop in" like some sort of bat with rabies and snatch the company up. Do some homework before you try scaring people.
     
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  4. MenInTights

    MenInTights not a plastic bag

    The administration could seize BP's assets though. I understand that we already have a $20B lien on their assets in the States. Here is an uber liberal website claiming that the government has a legal right to $1000/bbl damages which would be far more than the $20B: Daily Kos: Place a lien on BP's assets (OPA, Sec. 4301), begin liquidating them now.  

    Its not something I've thought about. God, I hope this is just liberals salivating and Conservatives fear.
     
  5. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    Let me ask you something then MiT, what do you have invested in them? Why would it bother you if they disappeared? Why is the right so scared of a company that purposefully built a faulty system after being told it was a bad idea being shut down? They're doing nothing to fix the spill except PR campaigning. No one is trying to swoop in and "take them". BP could have its US assets seized but they're based out of the UK. Obama can't just "take it" like Pro thinks.
     
  6. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    Don't see so naive Cons... I'm no fan of BP, the issue I take is that this thugocracy Hugo Chavez style government is treating BP like a criminal already without any due process. BP is responsible, but if this administration is just going to throw due process out the window... What is to stop them from doing juts about anything?

    Once the mess is clean and there is a bill, then go after BP. This dog and pony show in congress right now is not helping any, and only serves to intimidate the oil companies. I wouldn't put it past Obama to seize BP assets here on American soil. He has done worse. Just because he can't, doesn't mean he won't.

    Just for the record... I am Libertarian, not right wing... go look it up.
     
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  7. Merc

    Merc Certified Shitlord V.I.P. Lifetime

    Thugocracy?

    This is going to sound arrogant, but I assure you it's not meant to be but Pro have you ever studied the environment? Even back in high school? BP has essentially destroyed the gulf of Mexico. Thousands upon thousands of livelihoods are gone. Not in trouble, gone. On top of that, animals are washing up on shore and an entire ecosystem is damaged to such an extent that it will take decades to recover. Meanwhile, BP is doing nothing. They've shown that they're far more concerned about their image than anything. They've had government contracts for some time and after they constructed a site that even the designers were calling a "nightmare", they've continued their efforts at nothing.

    Funny how the majority of those opposing this "thugocracy" (interesting word choice) are also the ones most likely to defend "poor, itty bitty big business" from the "mean ol' nasty nanny state". Because big oil has come under serious fire before and these same people had no problems. I also enjoy your slippery slope argument of "Well if the government is just going to step in and tell the inept, drooling oil company to get working what's going to stop them from TAKING OVER THE WORLD?!"

    Come on dude, really?

    So we should just wait until these idiots decide to start cleaning? Remember, these are the same people that spent money to transport a group of workers to another state to get a photo taken to look like they're working and then shipped them back to the gulf (where of course they're all slowly crippling under the weight of extensive health problems). All their attempts are failing. I also love how people still have this vision of Obama like he's some sort of nightmare in human form. It makes me giggle.

    I'm well aware of what you are.
     
  8. micfranklin

    micfranklin Eviscerator

    BP fucked up and now they gotta pay for it, both literally and metaphorically speaking. And I wouldn't cry if offshore drilling was cut back or stopped altogether.
     
  9. pro2A

    pro2A Hell, It's about time!

    You'd probably cry when gas is 8 bucks a gallon. What you fail to realize is that the oil companies were pushed that far off shore because of the tree huggers. Now that BP fucked up, it virtually impossible to fix it in deep waters as opposed to easier shallow waters. Don't forget that oil isn't just used for that all evil gas... many of the byproducts make plastics, tar for the roads, rubber for your tires and many other things. If you cut off oil before cheaper more efficient energy sources are available, you are only going to see energy, rubber and plastic prices rise.

    The solution to a house burning down is not to halt or reverse all house building. Cons accuses me of being political, but look at Obama's reaction to this mess... His responses have either been nothing or rooted in political hatred of oil companies. There are miles of booms sitting in Maine, many nations have offered help... and what is the bureaucracy worried about? Inspecting ships and saying 'No' to the help... it's rooted in hatred of the oil companies.
     
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  10. CaptainObvious

    CaptainObvious Son of Liberty V.I.P.

    Pro does bring up a good point, a mess like this could have easily been avoided if we would drill in shallow water and in places like ANWAR. They were forced to drill in really deep water and when a leak like this happens it's virtually impossible to stop it.

    It isn't fair or correct to blame Obama for this mess (unless he donned a wetsuit and went down there with a chainsaw and made the leak) but I do blame them for their response. More needs to be done as far as the cleanup but we keep hearing story after story of companies offering to help being turned back.
     
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